News Saanichion resident joined inc Common Canadians brought common sense to the constitu- tional debate throughout the series of conferences which started in Halifax last month and wrapped up Feb. 16 in Vancouver. According to participant Kay Armstrong of Saanichton, the con- ferences gave Canadians a better perspective on the issues. “J think there was a greater degree of understanding of the complexities involved,” Arm- strong said Thursday. She has followed the constitu- tional conferences closely, as one of 40 ordinary Canadians chosen from across the country to partici- pate in the first forum, held in Halifax last month. Another local resident, Gerry Presseau of Sidney, was also chosen to participate in the conference. “Most of the average Canadians The Review - Wednesday, February 26,1992 — A34 spoke from the heart without con- sidering the political ramifica- tions,” Armstrong said, descnibing her experience in Halifax. By contrast, she found the con- Sstitutional experts were bogged down in weighing endless possi- bilities and variables. “They build in their own bag- gage for many, many reasons. They probably didn’t realize they were in a closed circle or how they got Continued from Page A8 found them to be both friendly and considerate neighbors. While real- izing not everyone likes or even understands dogs — we do!! Rural residential areas are the right places to raise dogs or any other creature on one’s Own prop- erty. With the current rash of residen- tial “break-ins” in the Cove and often ineffectual alarm systems; one should welcome the presence of a worthy ‘““guard’’ dog on one’s own property or adjacent lot. In respect to children putting their hand through fences or even reaching out to strange dogs irre- spective of size or breed, parents should encourage their children not to pet or approach without direct permission of the owner. While raising our children and keeping dogs, we have enjoyed the rural aspect of the area and the harmonious relationship of our neighbors for many years. Now the district as a whole has a real dilemma — first the urba- nites insisted that no roosters be allowed to exist in the area — too noisy (though natural). What's next, no “guard” dogs? What is the solution? Mr. and Mrs, Ashbee and your Akitas, we extend a belated wel- come and want it known that as far as these two directly neighboring households are concerned, we value you as neighbors. Chris and Margaret Logan Terry and Kathy Towle Sidney Fearful encounter Editor: Referring to the letter from David and Kathy English (Dogs dangerous in Deep Cove, The Review, Feb. 12), about the pur- ebred Akita dogs, owned by their neighbors, I was interested to learn that the Akita is considered a guard dog, and that Mr. and Mrs. English do not share the Ashbee’s view that Akita dogs are not VICIOUS. Let me tell you of a most frightening encounter I had with an Akita on Third Street in Sidney on August 9th. I was walking my West High- land on a leash at 10 p.m. on the sidewalk in front of Amherst Gar- dens Apartments on Third. A man and woman were walking up Amherst from the beach with two dogs. The man had a smaller dog on the leash, the woman had a leash in her hand — her dog was running free. Suddenly the loose dog (an Akita) charged across Third and attacked my Westie, grabbing him fiercely at the back of his neck and growling ferociously. I kept pulling my dog away from the Akita and the leash chain was choking him — so there was no dog fight. On the third attack the woman finally grabbed the Akita by the collar. When I got home I found the skin on Robbie’s neck was ripped back exposing a four-inch by four- inch wound. Next moming the vet used more than eight stitches to close the wound — I paid $110 for the bill. The SPCA told me they would fine the Akita’s owner for walking the dog without a leash. Most momings now when I look out to the beach, I see this same Akita being released from her leash at the Amherst public beach access to run freely. Fortunately I have not come face to face with this Akita again — but if I do I will be paralyzed with fear. From my experience with this fearful encounter with an Akita I can only report the dog 1s vicious. Anne G. Hudson Sidney Akita’s actions speak volumes Editor: Let’s put the record straight regarding the claims and counter- claims surrounding the shooting of a purebred Akita dog by a North Saanich farmer. The dogs’ owner, A. Ashbee, claims in a letter to The Review (Owner present when dogs shot, Feb. 5) that they are “non- vicious,” and that a “closed gate is all that is necessary to protect one’s property.” Both of these are outrageous. My sheep have twice suffered attacks by the Ashbee dogs. On the first occasion, a fine three year-old Suffolk-Cross (a substantial ani- mal weighing over 100 Ibs.) was savagely mauled within moments of one of Ashbee’s dogs getting onto my land, despite all the gates being firmly shut. Ashbee told me later that he had recovered his dog “almost imme- diately,” yet he did nothing about the wretched ewe. As we were away that week, the animal was left overnight in the ditch where it had fallen, before it was found by the house-sitter the following morning. A vet was called and the animal mercifully destroyed. So was the offending dog, I was told. About a month later, a second Akita belonging to Ashbee got into my sheep, again over the fence, and this time (according to a roofer working on my house at the time) chased a ram into such a frenzy that it jumped through an eight- strand hog-wire fence in terror. The dog followed, and the two fought to an exhausted standstill in our garden (this, all according to the eye-witness of the roofer). Ashbee arrived later and removed the dog. Incredibly, the ram was undamaged by either the dog or its trip through the fence (the hole is still there to prove it), and when I demanded he have the dog destroyed, he argued that since it had not drawn blood, and since he now had a proper chainlink fence to ensure its confinement at all times; he did not think it would be necessary. I bitterly regret not insisting that justice be done, and can only congratulate Mr. Davies on his fusillary perspicacity. It is unac- ceptable that A. Ashbee claim Akitas are “non-vicious.” Their behaviour on just two occasion speaks volumes about the breed. It is no good promising contain- ment or vigilance. Containment and vigilance fail, and the results are sickening. The dog’s suitabil- ity in arural environment is about as acceptable as a nuclear process- ing plant, adjacent to a day care centre. R.D. Hudson North Saanich Don’t hear dogs Editor: Regarding the dog shooting epi- sode in Deep Cove, I wish to state that I am not acquainted with Ashbees, Englishes nor Mr. Dav- ies. But as longstanding resident of Birch Road and close neighbor | am acquainted with relevant facts in this case. As Mr. Ashbee stated (Owner present, The Review, Feb. 5), the sheep were not being attacked and were under control of the owner, when Mr. Davies shot and killed one dog and pointed the gun at the owner (Dog killed, The Review, Jan. 29). : The Englishes state “since they (the Ashbees) moved in last sum- mer, their dogs have been a contin- ual source of worry and annoyance to our family.” In actual fact, the Ashbees were there before the Englishes and the previous owners of Englishes’ property never had any problem with the dogs, and very seldom heard them barking. In fact on occasion they talked to them through the fence. (Needless to say they were animal lovers.) And incidentally, how much livestock does Mr. English expect to be allowed to raise on his three- quarter acre property? As neighboring dog owners, we walk past the English and Ashbee properties four times a day, and have never once heard the dogs barking. Yes, we have sometimes heard and seen noisy children up and down Birch Road on their way home from school; not noisy because of the dogs, just high spirited after being cooped up for hours! The fact that the Ashbees are police officers is totally irrelevant to this episode. In fact many of their neighbors were not aware of this fact, but welcome them and the fact that law enforcement is represented in this area. We need it! As for Mr. Davies and his three sheep, why doesn’t he erect for them a substantial fence? Next time it could be a child that is accidentally shot. Margaret Abbot North Saanich s there,” she remarked. Armstrong said the comments of ordinary Canadians — seated for the first time as equals at a constitutional conference with the politicians and experts — broke that circle. “This is where ordinary Canadi- ans came in. They’re used to dealing with things as they are and as they happen on a day-to-day basis.” Chosen at random, both Arm- Strong and Presseau had to do some day-to-day scrambling just to reach the Halifax conference. Both received phone calls Jan. 12 inviting them to the conference. Their detailed information pack- ages only arrived two days before they left Sidney. Both flew out at 8 a.m. Jan. 16. “Tt didn’t leave too much time to digest the material they sent out,” Armstrong said, adding that she spent seven hours each day Jan. 14 and 15 reading the back- ground material. Having the government pick up the cost made it possible for ordinary Canadians to join in the conferences, Armstrong said. Presseau said the government expenditure was worthwhile, if only because it brought together ordinary Canadians from both French and English backgrounds. “Tf it had cost $50 billion, 1 think it was worth it,” he declared. Armstrong was surprised to dis- cover the French Canadians partic- ipating in the conference were not aggressively seeking separation from Canada. “They were more concerned with protecting their people and rights. There was no animosity towards Canada,” Armstrong said. The traditional trade-off between French and English Can- ada is now being altered by the demands of the First Nations’ people, she added. “There’s a whole new format evolving which is going to result in change and in a new constitution. Where do the aboriginals, where do the Inuit fit into Canada?” The series of conferences has brought together different groups from around the country, who have now come to appreciate each others’ difficulties, Armstrong said. ““We’ve seen we re not the only ones with problems,” she added. During the Halifax conference, Armstrong was in a 16-member discussion group which debated -compassionate, sensible people 656-1151 onstitutional debate the division of powers between the federal and provincial govern- ments. Saanich-Gulf Islands MP Lynn Hunter was part of the same group. Armstrong maintains part of the problem over the constitution is caused by a poor choice of lan- guage. For example, the suggestion that Canada accommodate the dis- tinct society of Quebec would be more accurately phrased as “embracing the unique society of Quebec,” Armstrong explained. She is convinced the participa- tion of ordinary Canadians will be part of future government confer- ences On major issues. “There was a new recognition of the resource of ordinary Canadi- ans,” she said. “Canadians as a whole are very who are willing to work out solu- tions.” Paving wails Rain, rain, go away, Sidney’s public works department officials lament as they wait to repave a section of Beacon Avenue. Wet weather forced postpone- ment of the much-awaited work to next week — if the weatherman co-operates. Public works officials are aim- ing for Monday to pave the stretch from First Street to Fifth Street. Manager Dick Reynolds says a full day of dry weather is needed before paving can commence. Work will be done on a Monday or Tuesday, not later in the week, to accommodate merchants, he said. That meant crews may not hit the streets this week. The whole street will be closed once paving begins. 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