—RIO DE JANIERO . HIS. interview with Senator Luis Carlos Prestes, leader of the Brazilian Communist Party, on the recent Inter-Ameri- can Defense Conference, held at Petropolis, suburb of Rio de Janiero, appeared in Tribuna Popular here. the peoples of the Americas? A. In spite of the publicity in connection with this conference and the space given to it in the principal newspapers of the con- tinent, it has obviously awakened little or no interest among the people, among the great Latin- American working masses. It is just another gathering of of- ficial Pan-Americanism, under the baton this time of President Truman and his Secretary of State Marshall, who are repres- entatives of the big bankers, of the trusts and monopolies that exploit us all more cynically and violently every day. Q. What do you think of the idea of forming a _ continental bloc to defend the peace? A. Modern war, large-scale to- tal war, can only be waged today by the great, highly-industrialized powers. Peace, therefore, de- pends in the first place and abeve all on the mutual under- ; standing and loyal cooperation - among the great. powers, es- pecially among the three great- est, which are the United States, the Soviet Union, and Britain. It follows that peace can only be guaranteed by the Security Council of the United Nations. Continental blocs are of no assistance whatever for this; on the contrary, they can only up- set or prejudice the policy of collaboration and of peace in the United Nations. A. The truth is that this Pan- Americanism they talk so much about has been nothing more than the privilege, won step by step by the U.S. bankers, of ex- ploiting our countries. We me _ kept in backwardness and ignor- ance, systematically exploited by foreign capital, and our national economies are distorted because orientated not in the national interest of each exploited people, tut rather in the interest of U.S. trusts and monopolies. This unequal Pan-Americanism, this pretended brotherhood of the. exploiter and the exploited, has ~ been nothing but a mask to cover the steady advance of the exploiter, for good or ill, even though it lead to conflicts as a front, which does not help the people in the least to rid them- selves of their most hateful op- pressors; it is a brotherhood which looks on unmoved, even - now, at the blood-bath of the heroic Paraguayan people, vic- tims of a pitiless tyrant. It would be silly to expect peace and security, progress and hap- -piness for our peoples, from a ‘This Pan-Americanism is only the front for US imperialism’ An interview with LUIS CARLOS PRESTES and to prevent the people from escaping imperialist exploitation. Today Truman and Marshall are the principal protectors of Fran- co and Salazar, of the fascist monarchy that oppresses the peoples of Greece, of the Chiang Kai-shek reaction, of imperialist Holland that bleeds the Indon- esian people; they are personal intimate friends of Trujillo, of Somoza, of Dutra and of Mor- inigo. All this is no secret, because Truman was very frank in his March 12 speech, declaring his support, to the extent of what- ever armaments and dollars he may have available, to all those throughout the world who are willing to combat democracy and who will play the part of ag- gressors against the Soviet Un- ion, against all those, in short, who fight for the progress of their countries. Under these circumstances, it is not difficult to guess the, true purposes that bring Truman and Marshall to Rio. Under pretext of peace and security, what these gentlemen have in mind can only be the unification of Am- erica under the hegemony of the U.S. bankers for their desired domination of the world. Q. What do you think of the “changes made in -the previously- announced program of the con- ference, to include discussiom of military questions? A. Thanks to the vigilance of the people, as well as to the campaign carried on by the de- mocratic forces of al Latin Am- erica, with the Communists in the lead, the sinister plans of Truman and Marshalt for the military unification of the con- tinent, for the submission of our armed forces to the control and command of U.S. generals, have been postponed until later. The conference of Petropolis limited ; its agenda to certain more or less innocent and harmless for- mulation on aggression and mu- tual defense. Behind this, as we already said, are doubtless hidden the rc- actionary and aggressive inten- tions of imperialism, which, nevertheless, could still be de- feated. Q. What is the source of the threat to the peoples of the con- tinent? A. Our peoples desire peace and security, but they know that war and insecurity, today, can only ‘come from the great center of world reaction which . is United States of Truman and Marshall. The Latin-American peoples also know that it is cnly through progress, through- -out development of national in- dustry, through the liquidation of the backwardness, misery and ignorance in which they vege- tate, that they can really defend the integrity and sovereignty of their fatherlands. The Latin-Am- erican peoples already know, in short, that above all they need liberty, real and effective politi- cal democracy, because only s0 can they secure the popular gov- ernménts capable of making the necessary economic reforms in- dispensable to national progress. Q. Do you think that anything” can come out of this conference favorable to the unity of the na- tions of the continent? the- SENATOR LUIS CARLOS PRESTES A. In the Inter-American Con- ference at Petropolis, if certain of the Latin-American delegates know how to raise and demand solutions to the problems of their peoples, if they meet head- on the imperialist offensive of Truman and Marshall, there will be revealed once again, and with new vigor, the generous and unifying ideas of the great he roes of the continent, of Tira dentes, Bolivar, Hidalgo, O’Hi8- gins, of San Martin, of Toussaint ~ YOuverture, of all those wh? understood how to fight for the independence and progress of their countries. ak by ISRAEL EPSTEIN PEAKING to the Inter-Am- erican Defense Conference at Petropolis, Brazil, President Truman made it pretty clear that the Marshall plan for \ dollars abroad differs in only “one way from the previous Greek-Turkish aid venture: It is bigger. These matters came up at Rio because .the United States refused to discuss financial aid to its Latin American sis- ter republics, on grounds of greater prior- ities in Eur- ope and Asia. i . President Tru- man do er ae spokesmen e€X- plained that Latin Ameri- ca could not have money : right now not Israe only because she. had not been devastated by war but because she is not a strategic ‘stop Communism’ area. But the southern countries will have their armies re- equipped to back up U.S. state department policies, when needed, as auxiliaries to the U.S. forces. They were also in- formed that they should make their economic resources avail- able where Washington does not have enough for the Old World. : Behind both Marshall plan and Truman doctrine lies the theory that money and arms lent to ‘safe’ rulers only can force peoples fed up with feudalism or big business rule to give them another try. To help allied nations rebuild war damage and leave them, to run their lives without such conditions is considered dan- gerous. e s PITE U.S. Secretary of State Marshall’s original statement that the west Euro- pean countries should plan for themselves and then be helped to carry out their desires, the state department has sent two men, Under-Secretary Will Clayton’ and its anti-Russian expert, George B. Kennan, to see that they plan right. France, for instance, has been given to understand that she must forget about out- building Germany industrially with U.S. aid, although she . feels this alone can save her from being invaded a fourth time by the boys from Berlin. It has become bad taste to remember that Germany was the enemy. Washington has picked Germany’s industrial workship, the Ruhr valley, as ‘Europe’s. arsenal enterprise. Meeting in London, British and American conferees work- ed out, a plan for a stronger western Germany unimpaired by further reparations to any of her former victims. The aim is to restore German pro- duction to its 1936 level. That level, it should be pointed out, was powerful enough to enable Hitler to break the Treaty of Versailles by re-militarizing the Rhineland and dare any country to try to make any- thing of it. In London the U.S., which has the dollars Britain wants, forced the British to shelve their ambitions to socialize major German plants. Free capitalism, meaning monopoly, will once again rule the coal and steel of the Ruhr. Wall Street will do a lot of the, ruling but wants the managers to be German. To have these managers elected by workers of private What's behind the Petropolis Conference? _ * who dig the coal and. smelt - the ore would of course be socialist and New Dealish. Ex- perienced businessmen are “wanted—and those, one and all, helped build up Hitler. @ ONSIDERING all this, it does not surprise us _ to hear ex-President Herbert (Prosperity is Just Around the other allies do the fighting Corner) Hoover telling the — American magazine that U.S. participation in World War Two was all a mistake. Hoover is once more a big wheel in American policy abroad. He thinks that the late President Roosevelt, wh° pulled the United States to- gether after Hoover helped wreck them, provoked Japa? into Pearl Harbor by his dis- like of fascism, In Hoover's opinion, America should have let England, Russia and the and “brought her sword to the peace table” later. ‘ With such men on top again the peace the world thought it won and Roosevelt planned for is a long way off. High prices are here. New Hoover — villes are just around the plock. The people of the Unit’ ed States and Latin Americ too ard expected to foot th© bill’ for implanting Hooverism™ | abroad and building Germany — Japan, Greece and Turkey a its bastions. They are expected to pay for arms and maybe later, use them to, make the ai world safe for such ; if foreign governments fere. or foreign peoples —even thousands of miles American shores. te inter | from PACIFIC TRIBUNE—PAGE Pree? © eS Tee @