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Listen to Pauling’s emphasis on the need for finding a way to peace: “We have to work for peace. thus express ourselves — the freedom which is not possible in Russia.” The freedom, he went on, shared by the peo- ples of the “NATO powers.” y Teller estimated the increase, in defective children . might amount to 1,500, but said he didn’t know, and that the fig- ure of 1,500 “is only an index to our ignorance.” He said “we don’t known that we have killed anybody,” and that the “alleged damage” from radio- activity has not been proved by any kind of statistics. “It is even possible that there is no damage. There is even the possibility that small amounts of radioactivity are bene- Czechs ROM time immemprial man has tried to find a secret process of old people, and geriatrics, which has been giy- en the task of treating old study old-age elixir which would keep him eternally young. Science has long since shown that the search is useless, but the de- sire to live longer remains, and so new _ branches of science have been created: gerontology, to study the life : Socred pot calls Tory kettle ~ Progr #king the “so-called 2 ee as a “myth,” ag a ¥ friend Mr, Diefenbake Known Spportunity but ahd the ” across this nation as @rty of depression.” a Soci liwack a “program on paper,” he said: p — Premier WwW. A. Bennett at Conservative, public works r has fumbled the ball. “He again the Tory party will the party of unemployment al Credit banquet in Chil- On March 8, ; people. The aim of these sciences is not to realise the dream of perpetual youth, but scienti- fically to anticipate old age and free people from many of the handicaps and illnesses of this period of life, A Gerontological Commis- sion has just been established in Czechoslovaka, headed by Professor Bahumil Prusik and attached to the internal medi- cine section of the J. RE. Purk- yne Medical Association, The field is not an entirely new one for Czechoslovakia. Before the Second World War the gerontology clinic of Pro- fessor Rudolf Eiselt was one of the best-known in Europe, but war interrupted its work. A debate about life and death By JOHN PITTMAN We need to work for it. We need to put an amount of work into the search for an agreement that is comparable to the $40 billion placed in armament , . . “I think all these develop- ments for the peaceful use of atomic energy can be car- ried on with an international agreement to stop nuclear weapons tests... : “The time has come for na- tions to obey the command- ment, ‘Thou shalt not kill’!” “IT do not interpret Khrush- chev’s statement (“We shall bury you”) as meaning he Problems of old age have come to the fore in many countries because the graph of human life is being con- stantly prolonged as a result of the fact that many infecti- ous diseases and epidemics have been conquered. In the socialist countries people no longer suffer from undernourishment and hunger. The present average life ex- pectancy in Czechoslovakia is 68 years, an increase of 14 years since the war, and 13 percent of the population is over 60. This comforting phenomen- on has many medical, social and economic consequences. The Czechoslovak ministry of health therefore intends to investigate and try to solve the problems of old age in cooperation with other minis- tries and institutions, as a intends to murder us all. I think he ‘was saying that socialism will bury capitalism, by peaceful means, rather than by war.” - And now compare the things uppermost in Teller’s mind: ’ ' “We must limit damage to what one has to damage. This is what I mean when I talk about ‘clean’ weapons... We are making great strides to- ward non - radioactive explo- Slons:. 2 “The moment we stop nu- clear tests, they will feel so strong that they will be able to take over the world. If we Stay strong we can have peace —based on force.” There were other issues in- volved. Pauling accused Teller of falsifying his statements in an article Teller wrote for Life magazine. And when Tel- ler talked . about the pos- sibility of Saving some lives through the development of ‘clean” weapons, Pauling shot back the accusation that Teller would like to see nuclear wars fought in such a way as to limit casualties. * Who won? That depends on the audience, on the premises the individuals in the audience’ start from, And that, in turn, relates to whether you hate inflicting pain or death on another human being, or whether you see it aS_a pos- sible necessity te maintain your way of life, The way the situation lines up today—no poll had to be taken on the outcome of the debate. That petition signed by 9,235 scientists from 44 countries, including 35 Nobel laureates; the mounting world clamor for a summit meeting to end the arms race—these suggest that the portion of mankind in Dr. Teller’s corner is small—and getting smaller. diseases basic national problem. Likewise the faculty of gen- eral medicine of the Charles University Medica] School in Prague will devote a day to gerontology and geriatrics at its conference scheduled for the end of April. One-fourth of all patients in Czechoslovak hospitals are over 60, most of them suffer- ing from diseases resulting from the deterioration of the human organism, of which the four most frequent are arterio- sclerosis, diabetes, diseases of blood pressure, and tumours. Thirty years ago only 7 or 8 percent of all deaths were caused by arteriosclerosis, while today the figure is 25 percent. The fight against these diseases, their study, prevention, and cure, will be a primary concern of medi- cine in this field,