v/iWf* far ^t^t^TT^ Marginalia CAME FROM THE OBVIOUS PLACE I THINK... BOTH ON THE MARGINS PHYSICALLY, GEOGRAPHICALLY, ETC ETC ETC... BUT FOR ME WHAT HOLDS IN THE TITLE IS THE FEMALE "SOUND" OF IT... IT SOUNDS NOT ONLY LIKE GENITALIA, LABIA, BUT FOR SOME REASON LIKE A MYSTERIOUS SEXUAL PART OF THE FEMAL BODY THAT PERHAPS WE HAVE NOT DISCOVERED YET... VERY WEIRD PERHAPS, BUT I LOVE THE SOUND OF THE WORD IN MY MOUTH.(p). The F word? DO YOU MEAN FUCK? FUN? FEMINIST? FRENZY? I LIKE ALL,THQS^ WORDS. \ v \ \ \jy W \ \ \ YES - WE TALK ABOUT SEX ALOT.... . DOESN'T EVERYBODY? PERHAPS THE DIFFERENCE IN SEXUAL DIALOGUE/DISCOURSE/GOSSIP /CONVERSTAION WHEN ONE IS "MIDDLEAGED" IS THAT IT TAKES PLACE WITHIN A CONTEXT OF HISTORY AND DEEP KNOWLEDGE ABOUT ONE'S BODY WHICH IS OFTEN ABSENT IN YOUNGER WOMEN...OR PERHAPS M. AND I ARE SIMPLY MORE "REFLECTIVE" AND INTEROGATIVE THAN MANY OTHER WOMEN OUR AGE... THOUGH IN MY EXPERIENCE, MANY WOMEN REACHING MIDDLE-AGE AND "FREED" FROM REPRODUCTIVE RESPONSIBILITIES, REENGAGE THEIR SEXUALTY AND SEXUAL IDENTITY WITH NEW INTEREST, NEW INSIGHT, AND NEW SENSE OF BOTH WHAT THEY DESIRE/WANT/NEED COUPLED WITH THE KNOWLEDGE AND UJ°"L ^ y /^ 7 Y^ 7 ~ W - ^ ' a c W i ttofi^A. Q " ^ hn ' •• ( ^ , f £ > * ^*< • EXPEREINCE OF HOW TO "GET IT".THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT OF COURSE, IS THE NOTION THAT AS WOMEN AGE THEY BECOME SEXUALLY "INVISIBLE", SO PERHAPS THIS ALSO FUELS SOME OF OUR CONVERSATION AROUND THIS TOPIC... ESPECIALLY SINCE WE ARE BOTH "IN THE BUSINESS" OF MAKING MEANING "VISIBLE", YES? I HAVE DONE A LOT OF WORK AROUND FEMALE SEXUALITY, ITS CONSTRUCTION, DIVERSITY AND REPRESENTATION), SO FRANKLY, I TEND TO TALK ABOUT SEXUALITY WITH ALL KINDS OF FOLKS.... WITH MARGARET THOUGH, I SUSPECT I HAVE BEEN GIFTED WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE MY OWN EXPEREINCE OF SEX, THE EROTIC, ETC... THAT WAS NOT PRESENT IN OTHER WORK I MADE AROUND THIS SUBJECT... SO THIS IS MORE PERSONAL, MORE TIED TO THE QUESTIONS I AM ASKING MYSELF AT THIS PARTICULAR HISTORICAL MOMENT IN MY LIFE AS A SINGLE WOMAN WHO IS MORE RATHER THAN LESS "SEXUAL" AS I AGE....SO IN THAT CONTEXT, THIS CONVERSATION WITH M. IS DEEPLY IMPORTANT IN WAYS THAT HAVE LITTLE TO DO WITH "ART" OR WHATEVER PUBLIC PERFORMANCE WE MIGHT MAKE... LIKE ALL ART PRACTICE, THE BEST "STUFF" IS THAT WHICH TRANSFORMS THE ARTIST... THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN A MAGNIFICENT "GIFT" TO ME ...AS A WOMAN AND AS AN ARTIST... WHO KNEW????(p) Since feb 2004 you have made this commitment If ^ There is something almost religious in nature about it Any comments/insights? RITUALISTIC, SPIRITUAL IN A WAY... I WORRY ABOUT THE WORD RELIGIOUS... BUT I SUSEPCT YOU ARE ON THE RIGHT TRACK SEEING THOSE ELEMENTS OF RITUAL, REPETITION, DEEP COMMITTED PRACTICE... IT HOLDS THIS GROUND OF CHOICE AND DECISION WHICH REMINDS ME OF OTHER DEEP REALTIONSHIPS... LOVE IS AFTER ALL BOTH A FEELING AND A DECISION... THE DECISION THAT MARGARET AND I HAVE MADE TO MAKE WORK TOGETHER SEEMS ALSO LIKE A DECISION TO MAKE A FREINDSHIP TOGETHER... TO BUILD SOME HISTORY TOGETHER.. TO BE PRESENT TO ONE ANOTHER OVER TIME AND DISTANCE... AS WITNESS, AS ALLY, AS "CORRESPONDENT"... VERY POWERFUL RESPONSIBILITY, AND I AM CONSTANTLY AMAZED AND STILL CURIOUS ABOUT WHY THIS FREINDSHIP IN ART SEEMS SO "EASY" WHEN FREINDSHIP IN LIFE CAN BE SO DIFFICULT TO SUSTAIN...(P) \ Is there something highly overrated about \jDeing physically close to someone? AB$OLUTEllY.(p) What kind of physicality are you experiencing in the process? THE TOUCH OF FABRIC, THE SEWING AND IRONING AND "MAKING" OF SQAURES WHICH HAS BECOME MY WAY OF "SPEAKING" OR WRITING LETTERS TO HER..THE REACHING AND GRASPING FORfBEACH DETRITUS TO "SEND" TO MARGARET EMBEDDE6 IN A SQUARE, THE % ejcfk"" OCCASSIONAL SOUND OF HER VOICE ON THE PHONE, OUR RARE MOMENTS OF REAL PRESENCE WHEN TOGETHER IN THE SAME PLACE... MONTREAL, ST. JOHN'S... THE COOKING, THE WALKING TOGETHER, THE SMALL TOUCHES EXCHANGED...(P) Do you also "confess my „ dependency/addiction/need for this medium- .* ."? M:THE squares^carre$ are an oasis or meditation or grounding to me, now. I often feel overpowered by daily responsibilities and actions (verbing, biking, teaching, personal training, meeting, filing, phoning, scheduling, shopping and cooking, emailing) and rush towards a session of square-making as a place I can let it out or let it in or just spend precious alone time or find my emotional centre by articulating something to pam through the medium of squares/carres. what if you both decide to not sew the squares together! but to throw them from the highest building do you think of these possibilities? or does the activity itself ground you in the moment? I do sometimes wonder what it would be like to not make squares but it seems sad and far away — like death/taxes/dentist bills/rrsps and all that jazz — a far away someday kinda thing in •"&£ £»""' *' • 11 £ kv** .^aAj)*,*** ^ y « ^ the future so i ostrich and try not to worry about. no pun intended, but it sounds like you two are having a telepathic relationship. • Pam and I are logging verbs for ourselves and for each other and every once in awhile we send each other a verb log or one in an email/rant of what we are doing. IT is perhaps these verb logs that helped us see we both share a love of labor (ours, each others, and other women's labour -- see the embroidery and lace on the found serviettes/pillowcases/hankies that we employ in our squares/carres). M: If this was an underground European art movie, pam & I would be played by 20something actresses; in Canada it would be directed by Pam Wheeler. But could the act of introducing 2 middle aged women to an intimate relationship of art/friendship be as dramatic/cinematic as a classic love story? QjiA C^'' Q^Jt What do you not know about this piece, Marginalia? WHERE IT WILL LEAD, WHAT ELSE I WILL LEARN FROM IT, WHAT THE ^Otg-horx PERFORMANCE WILL "LOOK LIKE", WHO ELSE MIGHT FIND MEANING OR RESONANCE FROM OUR PROCESS AND HOW WE DETERMINE TO RENDER IT VISIBLE.. ..p.h