HN LAA YA WET |) PECIAL SUPPLEMENT hus, accord was reached on the problem of medium-range missiles, too. A major breakthrough was made in this direction of nuclear disarmament as well. The American administration failed to hold ut against our insistent striving for achieving posi- _ tive results. However, there still remained the ABM issue and the an on nuclear explosions. Two groups of experts from our and the American “Sides worked the whole night before we met the next ay, Sunday, for our third conversation which was to ome the concluding one in line with the programme. hey thoroughly analyzed what had been discussed at the Wo previous meetings with the president and reported he results of their night-time debates respectively to me id to the president. The result was: there appeared a possibility of getting Own to elaborating agreements on strategic offensive armaments and on medium-range missiles. The ABM treaty in this situation acquired key sig- Nificance. Its role was becoming even more important. Ould one wreck, I said, what has so far made it possi- le to somehow restrain the arms race? If we now start ucing strategic and medium-range nuclear weapons, 0th sides should be confident that over that time Obody will develop new systems which would under- Mine stability and equality. Therefore, in my view, it S absolutely logical to fix the timeframe — the Ameti- | Cans mentioned seven years, and we proposed ten years | uring which nuclear weapons ought to be eliminated. } We proposed ten years during which neither the Soviet de nor the American side will avail itself of the right _— and they have such a right — to withdraw from the BM treaty and to conduct research and tests only in aboratories. Thus, I think, you understood why exactly N years? This is not casual. The logic is simple and Onest. 50 per cent of strategic armaments are to be duced in the first five years. And the other half — | M the next five years. This makes it ten years. In this connection I proposed to instruct our high- _ tanking representatives to start full-scale talks on the Iscontinuation of nuclear explosions in order to work ut ultimately an agreement on their banning once and all. In the course of the preparation of the agree- hent — and here we again displayed flexibility and Sumed a constructive stand — specific problems con- €cted with nuclear explosions could be simultaneously solved. ‘ N answer we again heard from President Reagan the Oning which had been familiar to us since Geneva hd from his public statements: that the SDI was a €fense system, that if we started to eliminate nuclear apons, how could we protect ourselves from some adman who might get hold of them, that he was ready © share with us the results obtained within the frame- tk of the SDI. Answering this last remark, I said: - President, I do not take seriously your idea of shar- 8 With us the SDI developments. You do not want to are with us even oil equipment and equipment for milk TOcessing plants. _ Still you expect us to believe your promise to share DI Second American revolution’’, and revolutions do not Ppen too often. I said to President Reagan: let us be . thi Sts and pragmatists. It is more reliable this way. The Mgs we are talking about are too serious. “ the way, yesterday, trying to justify his stand on © SDI, the president said that he needed the pro- pamme for America and its allies to remain invulnera- ws Against a Soviet missile attack. As you see, in this he already made no mention of madmen. The Viet threat’? was again brought to light. But this is nothing but a trick. We suggested that not nly Strategic armaments, but also all the nuclear arma- Tents in the possession of the U.S. and the USSR be ‘Munated under strict control. Whence the need to protect the ‘‘freedom of America’”’ i Its friends from Soviet nuclear missiles as these ~'Ssiles will be no longer? f there are no nuclear weapons, why have protection against them? It means that the entire “Star Wars” undertaking is of a pure- ly militaristic character and is directed at gaining military superiority over the Soviet Let us return, however, to the talks. Although agree- “ht On strategic arms and medium-range missiles was “Ched, it was premature to believe that all this was y finally resolved as a result of the two first “sions. A whole day was ahead, nearly eight hours of N-stop and intense discussions in which these ques- » Which seemed to be agreed upon already, had to ‘Taised again and again. | these discussions, the president sought to handle “logical problems as well, demonstrating, to put it Y, total ignorance and inability to understand both Ocialist world and what is taking place in it. I. ‘developments with us. It would be a kind of — rejected the attempts to link ideological differences with questions of ending the arms race. I persistently drew the president and the secretary of state back to the sub- ject that brought us to Reykjavik. It was necessary to remind our interlocutors again and again about the third element of the package of our proposals, without which it was impossible to reach accord on the whole. I mean the need for strict compliance with the ABM treaty, con- solidating the regime of this major treaty and banning nuclear tests. We had to draw attention again and again to what seemed to be perfectly clear things: since we agreed to effect deep reductions in nuclear arms, we should create a situation that would preclude attempts — both in deeds and in thoughts — to shake strategic stability and to circumvent the agreements. That is why we should be confident about the preser- vation of the permanent ABM treaty. You, Mr. Presi- dent, I said, ought to agree that from the time we start reducing nuclear weapons, there should be firm confi- dence that the U.S. will do nothing behind the back of the U.S.S.R., while the Soviet Union will not do any- thing behind the back of the United States that would jeopardize your security or that would depreciate the agreement and create difficulties. Hence the key task to strengthen the ABM regime — to not go into outer space with ABM research and to keep research within laboratories. The ten years of not using the right to pull out of the ABM treaty are neces- sary to create the confidence that, while resolving the problem of reducing arms, we ensure security for both sides and for the world. - But the Americans obviously had other intentions. We saw that the U.S. actually wants to weaken the ABM treaty, to review itso as to develop a large-scale space- based ABM system for its own egoistic ends. To agree with this would be simply irresponsible on my part. As to nuclear tests, here too it was totally clear why the American side did not want to conduct talks on this issue in earnest. It would have preferred talks without end, to put off the solution of the problem of banning nuclear tests for decades. And once again we had to reject attempts to use talks as a screen for a free hand in the field of nuclear explosions. I stated bluntly: Iam having doubts about the honesty of the U.S. position, is there anything in it that might inflict damage to the Soviet Union? How can one reach agreement on the elimination of nuclear arms if the United States con- tinues perfecting them? Still we had the impression that _ the SDI was'the main hitch. Upon removing it we would’ have had an opportunity to reach an accord on the banning of nuclear explosions as well. t a certain stage of the talks, when it be- came absolutely clear that to continue the discussion would be a waste of time, I reminded the other side: we have pro- posed a definite package of measures and I ask you to consider it as such. If we have worked out a common position on the possibility of a major reduction of nuclear arms and at the same time failed toreach agrement onthe matter of the SDI and nuclear tests, then everything we have tried to create here falls apart. The president and the secretary of state took our firm- ness badly. But I could not pose the question in a differ- ent way. This concerned the security of our country, the security of the whole world, all peoples and continents. We proposed major, really wide-ranging things clearly of the nature of a compromise. We made concessions. But on the American side we did not see even the slight- est desire to respond in kind, to meet us halfway. We were deadlocked. And we began thinking about what to conclude the meeting with. Yet we continued the efforts to make our partners engage in a constructive dialogue. STRATEGIC NUCLEAR WEAPONS 10000 ;— 8000 6000 WARHEADS 7 USSR.“ 2000s Be? a a Onl gad sala etd 1966 1970 1975 1981 Annual Report FY 1982, p. 54 ec =D of Deft Geneva, November 1985: Gorbachev and Reagan pledged to work to end the arms race on Earth and prevent its spread into space. The Soviet proposals presented at Reykjavik serve this aim. The conversation that was planned to be the conclud- ing one found itself in trouble. In this situation, instead of parting — we back to Moscow and they to Washing- ton — yet another break was announced. Let the sides think everything over and meet once again after lunch. On returning to the house of the city’s mayor after the break we made yet another attempt to make the meet- ing end in success. We proposed the following text as the basis for summing up a positive result. Here is the text: “¢ ‘‘The USSR and «the Uiilted States nggeriake in the course of ten years not to use their right to withdraw from the permanent ABM treaty and to strictly observe all of its provisions. It is prohibited to test all space ele- ments of an -ABM defence in outer space except for research and testing conducted in laboratories. “*In the course of the first five years of this decade (till 1991 inclusive) the strategic offensive arms of the sides will be reduced by 50 per cent. ““In the course of the subsequent five years of this period the remaining 50 per cent of the strategic offen- sive arms of the sides will be reduced. — “Thereby, the strategic offensive arms of the USSR as A United States will be fully eliminated by the end re) = es If there are no nuclear weapons, why have protection against them? Commenting on this text, I made an important addi- tion, referring to the document which had been handed over to the president at the end of our first conversa- tion. The point is that upon the expiration of ten years, when there are no nuclear weapons any longer, we pro- pose to elaborate at special negotiations mutually acceptable decisions on what to do next. ~ But this time, too, our attempts to come to terms were to no avail. For four hours we were again trying to per- suade the interlocutors that our approach was well- founded, that it threatened them with nothing, and did not affect the interests of the United States’ security. But the farther the discussion went, the clearer it became that the Americans would not agree to limit SDI re- search, developments and tests to laboratories. They are bent on going to outer space with weapons. I said firmly that we would never agree to help under- mine the ABM treaty with our own hands. This is to us a question of principle, a question of our national security. Thus, being virtually one, two or three steps from tak- ing decisions which could become historic for the whole nuclear-space era, we were unable to make that step or those steps. No turning point in the world’s history occurred although, I say it again with full confidence, it was possible. However, our conscience is clear, and no one can reproach us with anything. We did all we could. PACIFIC TRIBUNE, NOVEMBER 12, 1986 e 7 SOARES APES ERE RS NC ROSNER NT AI uF NEN 8 RE CORN RR 5