SOVIET POLICY ON PEACEFUL CO-EXISTENCE SET rh IN 1920 INTERVIEW ‘Let ‘us trade in peace’, Lenin proposed to world ie } a U the leaders of the Soviet Union really believe in the peaceful co-existence of socialism and capitalism ? Do the Soviet (Communists think that the revolution against capitalism can be exported from their country to other lands ? Are the Russians interested in trade with the capitalist world? Do Marxist-Leninists believe that w ar is in- evitable ? On numerous occasions since the end of the war, Premier Joseph Stalin has repeated the statement that the Soviet government favors peaceful co-existence with the capitalist world. Stalin told that to Harold Stassen when Stassen interviewed him in Moscow. He told it to Henry Wallace. Soviet leaders like Deputy Premier V. M. Molotov and G. M. Malenkov, Communist party secretary, have ‘repeated these statements. *big business press that ee statements are “pro- paganda.” The enemies of the Soviet Union have cited the writings of V. I. Lenin, the founder of the Soviet state, to “prove” that Communists be- lieve war is inevitable and that peaceful co-exist- ence between the socialist and capitalist systems is impossible, Some months ago, ev ery daily newspaper in the Soviet Union reprinted an interview with Len- in which appeared in the Hearst paper, the New York Journal, 31 years ago. We are publishing that interview below. Here you have an authoritative answer to the questions we posed above by the man who led the Russian revolution in 1917 and‘was the first premier of Soviet government. Lenin and Stalin never concealed their views that the big bankers and factory owner will al- ways try to stir up wars. These big business in- ets, sources of raw materials and places to. invest surplus capital. The big capitalists want to destroy the social- ist world because they oppose a social system where there are no capitalists and where the means of production are owned in common. The reason socialism stands for peace, on the other hand, is that there are no bankers and private munitions makers who can profit from war. Bocialism requires peace to build up its economy and the culture and welfare ofits citi- zens. But does that mean in turn that the imperial- ist camp will inevitably make war on the social- ist world? - On the contrary, Marxists believe the organ- ized working class and a huge united movement of the people for peace can stay the hands of the Nevertheless, it is still being charged in the \ By KARL H. VON WIEGAND Universal Service Staff Correspon- dent. Copyright, 1920, by Universal Service. BERLIN, Feb. 21--Soviet Rus- sia is planning no military of- fensive against Poland, Rumania or any other. country. Her main wish is to live in peace with all the world and to reestablish healthy, normal trade conditions with Europe and America. - She is ready to pay for the things she needs not only with gold, but with raw materials. Nicholai Lenin, the Bolshevist premier, makes these .tatements in a long wireless communication to me, in an answer to a series of direct questions I put to him in a radio message. The impor- tant lengthy message I have just received from him amounts. there- fore. to a “wireless interview,” unique in the annals of journal- ism. WORLD CLAIMED FOR SOVIETS M. Lenin makes the flat pre- diction that the future belongs to the Soviet system all over the world, but denied that the Soviet Government intends to bring this about by force of arms. Touching ‘upon the deportation of radicals by the United Btetes, he says: “We are not afraid of revol- utionists. We are not afraid of any state or country. We wel- come any citizens whom America thinks dangerous, with the excep- tion. of course, of criminals.” The Bolshevist chieftain’s mes- Sage to me follows, in full: “Do we intend to attack Poland and Rumania? No. We have de- clared most emphatically and of- ficially, in the name of the Coun- cil of the People’s -Commissars and the All-Russian Central Ex- ecutive Committee, our peaceful ‘intentions, “It is very much to be regretted that the French capitalistic gov- ernment is instigating Poland (and presumably Rumania, too) to attack us, This is even men- tioned by a number of American radios from Lyons. id “You ask about our plans in Asia, They are the same’ as in Europe: peaceful, neighbourly life with all peoples; with the workers and peasants of ajl nations . awakening to a new life — a life without exploiters, without pan- handlers. without capitalists, with- out merchants. “The imperialistic war of 1914- 1918, the war of Anglo. French and Russian capitalist groups against Germany’s capitalist group for the partition of the world has awakefied Asia and has strengthened there, as everywhere else, the tendencies toward free- dom, towards peaceful labor and against possible wars in the fu-— ture. terests bring about wars in their drive for mark- w armakers. “You ask me: ‘What would be the basis of peace’ between Rus- sia and America?’ — _“My answer is: Let the Ameri- can capitalists leave us alone. We shall not touch them. We are even ready to pay with gold for any machinery, tools, etc., useful to our transport and industries. We are ready to pay not only with gold, but with raw materials, tod, “ ‘What are the obstacles to peace between Russia and Ameri- ca?’ you ask. “None on our part; imperialism ‘ en the part of the American as of the other nations’ capitalists. “As to our view of the depor- tation of Russian revolutionists from America, we have received them. We are not afraid of revol- utionists here in this country. As a matter of fact, we are not afraid of anybody, and if America, is afraid of a few more hundred or thousand of its citizens, we are ready to begin negotiations with a view of receiving any citizens whom America thinks dangerous, _with the exception of course, of criminals. “The possibilities of an econ- omic alliance between Russia and Germany, regarding which you ask me, are, unfortunately, not great, because the Scheidemanns are bad allies. “We stand for an alliance with all countries, excepting none. “ ‘What are our views upon the Allied demand for the extradition of the German alleged war cul- prits?’ If we are to speak ser- iously on -this matter of war guilt, the guilty ores are the capi- talists of all countries. ‘ “Hand us over all your land- Jords owning more than a hundred hectares of land and the capital- ists having a capital of more than 100,000 francs (nominally $20,000), and we shall educate them to use- ful labor and make them -break with the shameful, base and bloody role of exploiters and in- stigators of wars for the partition " of colonies. Wars. will then. be absolutely impossible. N ‘What would be the influence of peace between Russia and the rest of the world upon the econ- omic conditions in Europe?’ you ask, “Exchange of ‘machinery for corn, flax and other raw materials ~-I ask, can this be disadvanta- geous for Europe? Clearly, it can-~ not be anything but beneficial. , “As to our opinion regarding the future development of the ~ Soviets as a world force, the fu- ture belongs to the Soviet: system all the world over. The facts have proved it. One has only to count, say, by quarterly periods, the growth in the number of pamphlets, books, leaflets, and newspapers in any country stand- ing for the Soviets. “It cannot be otherwise, Once the workers in the cities, the landless peasants and the journey- men in the villages. as well as the small peasant$ cease to con- stitute the medium of exploita- tion; once this enormous majority of toilers has understood that the ~ Soviets give the whole power into their hands, releasing them from PACIFIC TRIBUNE — JANUARY 19, 1951 the yoke of landlords and capi- talists — how could one prevent the victory of the Soviet system all over the world? I, for one, do not know of any means to prevent it. “Has Russia yet to fear a coun- ter-revolution from without? Un- fortunately, it has, because the — capitalists’ are stupid, greedy p@ople. They make a series of such stupid, greedy attempts at intervention that one has to fear repetitions until the workers and peasants of each country thor- oughly re-educate their capitalists. “Is Russia ready to enter busi- ness relations with America? Of course it is ready to do so, not only with America, but with every other country. “Peace with Estonia, to which we have made enormous conces- sions, has proved our readiness to give for the sake of business re- lations, even industrial conces- sions. . ‘ pre ‘ “LENIN”. — Page ¢