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(UPC) -- Recent disruptions Sunday. “It could just be.the way they ‘are running their . of Claude Ryan's referen- campaign.” . dum campaign meetings Leyesque’s remarks may be an attempt to make followed the eruption of _ “no” supporters ‘‘look like fisticuffs Saturday at a Ryan martyrs or cry babies,” - ‘according to Premier Rene: Levesque, — mae: : Supporters tangled aver a The premier said ais own Maple Leaf flag borne by the - organizers had had no dif-' “no” side, At least’ one ficulty . controling - syp- porters of Ryan, who heads “no” forces in the: May 20 referendum campaign, when they attended Levesque meetings, Lo ‘Maybe they're (the Ryan side) organizing themselves to look jike martyrs or cry meeting in Gatineau, Que., . when “‘‘yes’? and ‘‘no’’ report said the “yes” demonstrators... included several ‘Parti Quebecois supporters who had greeted Levesque “in the same community two days earlier, For the first time in the referendum campaign, security guards, - identified babies, I don’t know,” Levesque told reporters 4 . by buttons and white arm- bands, were present Sunday 4 af RENE LEVESQUE... 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The PQ premier told the | meeting, .. held’ in. an agticultural ‘technology ' institute .in this .dairy-- farming “community. 60° kilometers east of Montreal, that he was willing to debate the referendum with Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau but not with Ryan... 9... 0? “He said Ryan had refused © an: invitation to debate: Levesque before a primarily: English-speaking audience. “lt Ryan refuses a debate in English, 1 for my part am not going to debate in MONTREAL (UPC) —~ Premier Rene, Levesque struck’.an incongruous note in his “yes supporters at the midway point of. the © referendum campaign. ° “They're talking about a: budget for year one of in- . dependence,” the premier - ‘said haranguing his. federalist rivals — for ., hazarding cost projections of . -. asovercign Quebec. “Is that. : what we want May 202" ‘No! No! No!” chanted his’ followers. ote As he grew increasingly Strident in his attacks against federalism, Levesque also pursued his soft pitch for negotiations on sovereignty-assaciation. The “no” chants in Hull, Que., were heartfelt. rebuffs of enemy warnings an af- firmative vote May 20.would signal independence. Liberal leader Claude. Ryan's hypothetical .budget, to be released at the end of swith an oratorical style ‘ sranding: from te ewe MONDAY 5 p.m. to midnight BING (MBC) CETK CCRC) BCTV (CTVIINCTS (PBS) 1/13 :001c. Burnett [Happy 4 Mister La :ISland Friends [Days Million Rogers Femme Dl News Hour Dollar Electric Bionique 485i News Glas Man | Company La -:00] News CHIPS News Zoom ce tis News CHIPS Hour ZOOM Solr 0 News CHIPS Naws Over Ce 145 JNaws CHIPS Hour Easy Solr 700} Seattle Fantasy [Circus - i Mactell Par 15] Tonight iste 1d Cirews Lehrer 2 of a Tic Tac Fantasy Circus Friends of | La Fine 243] Dough jaland Circus Man J cuisine OO] Little White The . 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Stranger still in Quebec, the crowds were often ending the meetings singing “O Canada,” led confidently, and vigorously by Ryan ¢ For the leader of the ''no” cause in Quebec’s most critical vote, the man for whom short weeks ago nothing appeared to be going right, was certain his message finally was coming across loud and clear. | “Our. reports from headquarters indicate’ that we are headed for a major victory," Ryan said boldly from atop a bench in a ’ shopping center mall. — The message appeared to - be getting across. to his opponents, too, for by the: week's end, cadres of Parti Quebecois ‘‘yes” supporters showed up at his meetings. In one case, they were ready with staged, prepared questions and statements. In ‘another, they jostled with “no’’ supporters over placards and set up such a noisy. din that Ryan was drowned out. ‘ The gaunt and lanky provincial Liberai leader took in the scene ‘at Levis, Que. coolly. . "It is unfortunately typical of. many Pequistes,” he remarked. “They go to meetings just to disrupt. A lot’ of people were very sympathetic — but they don't make. one-tenth as . much noise,” The demonstrators themselves may have ur- derlined a polnt often made by Ryan — that his op- ponents lack tolerance for opinions that differ from their own, - And they may have los sight of an axiom of politics — that winners seldom have to shout, It may be that the size of the crowds that Ryan has been drawing Is sowing some self-doubt among the “yes” - supporters of Premier Rene - Levesque. About the only place the crowds were thin was in the isolated Gulf of St. Lawrence Ties dela Madeleine, But they grew larger by the day until in Loretteville, near Quebee City; a local resident * sald he hadn't seen ‘‘a crowd this big since they last held a ‘ dispensible,"’ French,’ Levesqye'said. | _ Bul ds far‘as Trudeau was” concérned,’ he sald, “I am ready. fe. Tes ‘The premier'sald Trudeau was: guilty of: “collective ‘insult’ to Quebecers for: his speech':to the Montreal Chambre: de Commerce ‘in ‘which he reiterated he would. not= ‘negotiate _sovereignty- association in the event.of-a “yes.vate, et decided," “The prince has ‘ sevesque daid sarcastically, adding that he was offended by Trudeau's choice of Cuba ,. -B -and. Haiti as. hypothetical states that: might wart to associate with Canada, _- “Tt is typical that he chose two totalitarian states,” he sald. Levesque said that should “1 tutly lying -ta the. people . _Aabaut what's going to happen May 20 because there's going fo. be. plenty ‘of time to negotiate and find out about: - things they can’t even give figures for," he said. | Levesque.. appeared. ‘confident in the final weeks ‘of campaigning. -But, the image conveyed from the. Laurentian hills north of Montreal to the massive ‘;.+ James Bay hydroelectric “power site was that he was dispensible in the Parti ’ Quebecois' drive towards . . registering. “political sovereignty. -'- “Hf | have one ambition left in politics that is to point the - direction. as quickly -as possible- for a normal, healthy future in. all the horizons reflected in a “yes’,” he told a labor unicn rally in Hull. “Everyone's Levesque set a gruelling pace for “yes’’ forces last week, ‘often delaying scheduled, speaking engagements with discur- sive and repetitious tirades CLAUDE RYAN... big-prize bingo game.” Ryan himself. was relishing the contact part of the sport of politics.-Whether it was a cluster or a crowd, Ryan plunged in with hand ’ outstretched and a peck on the cheek for anyone withil each, ; -“He.may not be good- looking, but he's the last hope we've gol,"’ said one woman alter a Ryan buss, - But Ryan says he isn’t out just to be liked. ‘ “This isn’t a popularity contest,”’ he said repeatediy. “People are coming to our ° side because of our options, our ideas, not because one person is more popular than another." — It's a wise concession to make because polls con- sistently, have had Ryan trailing. well behind Levesque in popularity. - Often described as too - emotionless and cerebral for the public’ life, Ryan,. ‘perhaps. a bit needled by Prine Minisier Pierre Trudeau's remark that the “no” campaigi was too _to be more frustration. It’s a ‘ Liberal . : America. the “io” forces win ‘the. referendum, “there is going. great risk,” 9". : ; Asked .by réporters. to’ elaborate, Levesque said he . had meant only that.*‘there ' -would be another’ 15 or.20 years of constitutional « crisis.” ‘Levesque ‘was ‘joined: by. *. Kevin. Drummond, « briefly agricultural minister in the. cabinet: receded Levesque’s ad-. ministration ..who -has - declared himself a supporter of the “yes” option in-the - PQ's bid for a mandate. to negotiate sovereignty- association. © - “e - Both Garon and Drum-_ Levesque budget. confusion? _ ly expected “to ~ focus” on against federalism. But, he beganby signalling a change ‘in. campaign strategy designed to convert a reportedly large margin of undecided voters. Rallies. planned | for, gmall, ‘select - partisans would be opened’ -up to anyone ‘who, cares’ to show up. It's, important for’ us to open our rallies to all sorts of. ‘Quebecers,” he said," And in a special plea, he urged both his followers and “by. inthe outskirts.” provincial «Agriculture ‘Minister Jean’ Garen: and that - “potential into other parts’ of mond agreed with Levesque . sovereignty-assoclation - would make, it possible for - Quebec to‘ negotiate’a better « deal for-agriculture...° - »., , Because of the Maritime # Ugoslavian people upon the eee ee elec potatc’ - death of the man who had led ‘gan: sell’ -in Quebec: City. “. Levesque’s : front of the premier. ~ - ‘Phe: diminutive premier * also looked: over same cows, gingerly: patting the front © end of-one prize holstein. “there to be proud of. the achievementthe « "flagship". ‘of a Quebec economy and* - harbinger of‘a future free of . - had -“‘syph of Quebee’s annual growth Canada, | “ . ‘That.-note of: hope -for change was accompanied by Levesque’s conviction’ a. ‘negotiate. mandate. to 1 - sovercignty-asseciation « after May 20 would be hig own: time’ ! by: Prime oned'’ 10 percent “- OTTAWA. (UPO) 2! Josip. Tito’. was”: :deseribed. “a3 _ vislonary ‘and ‘a, “legend in Minister. Pierre “Trudeau in s‘eondolences.: sent to the * Labor discusses issues“ < "WINNIPEG (UPC) — The : five-day Canadian Labor Congress’. ginual ‘meeting, “economic and energy issues, “gets underway today with an. ’‘addreas by president Dennis “McDermott . first on’ :the _ Afederal system that he said~ schedule. : = During a “media. briefing ‘ference will also debate the . McDermott. and. other “members of the executive - : Will’ be up for re-election for © “the first’ time “since ‘they. the uncommitted to meet the’ “honored by the rest of the, made recommendations - Saturday deadline. for - “Don’t let go. If you’re'not committed enough either . way yet to register . your- selves for. the vote,’’ he said, "the result won't be par- ticularly convincing.” - The highlight of the week was a Visit to the campsite of ~ LG-3, -one. of four ' hydro-. electric projects on La :rande River that promises to become the Jargest hydro power complex in North He . implored laborers doing. better unimpassioned, unveiled some of his feelings about Canada as a country. © | “The Parti Quebecois” imagined our Canadian roots . were fragile and perishable, and that our connections to the federal government and _ Canada should be hostile and cautious," he told one group. “But they're discovering our Canadian roots go very deep. The referendum ex- perience is a good occasion for profound reflection on making Canad a. -better country.” ot oy Part of Ryan’s assurance - of the referendum’'s oulcome stenis from his conviction that - persons who themselves undecided to polisters, currently running . about one-fifth of the 4.2 million. electorate will fall into the ‘'no” camp. That was the case, he notes, in the severt byelections iri which _ he trounced the PQ. a “The undecideds are _ leaning more and more to our side," he told one. gathering where many sported miniature Canadian list’. country. . “ » “The''yes" is taking effect ~ even. before — being pronounced,” he confidently speculated on the basis of ‘two surveys: of whether Canadians outside Quebec. ‘bargaining mandate. |. * . “This could be an enviable: model’ for ‘a.democratle and... gradual transidrmation. ofa - regime that ‘has served: its * lke, fatnilless He gal time,” he‘ concluded. “If we - reach this point, i don’t think ' ‘we'll want to dishonor the | ‘Canadian democracy.” ‘yes' realising mdre ard more: that the PQ inevitably ‘lead ‘to the separation of Quebec from - Canada. - “And’ we don't want to separate.” _ The puckish Levesque may draw ‘the. ‘po laurels, But Ryan’s almost © Lincolnesque aura of steely integrity may prove, in the long run, to be just as ef- fective — if not more so.” RYAN ASKS FOR TURNOUT: By HUGO FAY MORIN HEIGHTS, Que. (UPC) — Liberal leader Claude Ryan, predicting an irreversible. ‘lead two weeks before the May 20 referendum, has appealed for a :solid turnout in his own riding to balance any - losses elsewhere in Quebec... “It the referendum question were to be posed tomorrow, we'd win” a -comfortable. majority perhaps in each and |. every region of the province,” 4 confident and relaxed Ryan told. supporters Sunday in this | largely English-speaking '} community-tu¢ked away in the Laurentians.. , Bot Ryan, in his first campaign appearance in his ‘home riding of Argenteuil, echoed pleas by his arch-rival Quebec premier Rene- Levesque, urging a maximum turnout May 20. He told ‘the crowds that unlike an eleclion,-in a refereridum, “the total. result” ' counted.’ 7 . “T€ we can have a turnout of 0 t0.95 percent, thal might help make up |. for some losses which we might have entered In other parts ‘of’ the | province,” Ryan gaid.. “So this. explains why we must keep working in Spite of all indications that things are going well until referendum day.” One Ryan alde said the “nd” forces expected losses In only one area, the Saguenay-Lac St. Jean region in the nor- thern part of Quebec, tion will © pularity : against supporting members of the Canadian . Union. of -Postal Workers ‘who defied federal. back-to-work : . legislation in 1978. . * - But McDermott: said he — uebec. was not concerned dliout _- were! prepared to honor. .a. .divisiveness among thé. #,500 *: orévent. delegates.who will représé more than 2 million mem. _bers:nationally.-:: « “Trade union. “They fall out ‘once in a while. They argue’ very energetically... but, * ike’ most other families, they also: know when ‘to close: ranks.”’ . 1. yards - ‘Winnipeg, but even now he insists the decade-old igsue is notdead, Axworthy has © been promoting rail relocation, since his days as a member : of the provincial legislature, ‘and was a prim mover in ‘ sparking “the latest study which put a $168.6. million price tag on the move, __ But his credibility has been questioned in city hail " and the legislature since iast . week when: federal -Tratre.- : life. - . ee ee “On behalf of. the-govern-. 1°. -mentof Canada, J extend.to his -family and.‘to -the » Sunday, McDermott sald the iSth- constitutional con-' ~ CLC's role in. the political : - visited ‘us: in’ 1921, We will remember: ‘him’ for. -his : persistant purauil.of detente, disarmament, and improved relations between all states. — “I am confident the.strong _and independent Yugosiavia “which emerged ‘under::his ~ “feadership will ‘continue to pursue: internatlonal . peace and. stabllily,-to. which President ‘Tito devoted’ his - government and people of Yugoslavia my’ deepest.- _--sympathies.at this loss which *-- we also feel as a loss to.the * world community.” °° - “Another more recent Issue - was the resignation last _month of general*.vice- president Ken Rose, who quit over what” he’ ‘called: .the paternal ‘dictatorship’ of. the. Quebec Federation of Labor. -. Rose said ‘the CLC. took a position two years ago on the. . _ Night ‘of Quebec. to. self- determinatidn, and said ‘he saw.no reason subsequently ‘to change from that position. Aniong ‘the guests ad- dresslng the conference this week willbe C. Harry Urwin and John Weaver, both of the - ’ British’ ‘Trades ~ Union Congress; Johit Kelly of the AFL‘CIO; Otte, Kersten,: general . secretary * of . the itself will be open to mem- ... bers of the media, «: - The’ CLC holds con-— stitutional conventions every second year, " ‘provincial governments, are _ willing to pay part of the cost. ee Also attending the meeting . were Winnipeg. mayor. Bill Norrie, Conservative: MLA ‘Gary Filmon, and NDP. MP ‘David Orlikow, whose riding “would be affected by a rail yard. move, - Proponents of moving the rail yards say the constant: movement of hazardous ~ chemicals through . the sport Minister Jean-Luc, that should be avoided at any Pepin told’ a Winnipeg ‘delegation “the government has ne money to move the yards out of the downtown area. - According to Pepin, most Canadian citles and towns have a rail relocation ’ problem, and -even if- the government could help Winnipeg it couldn't begin to help other centers that would be seeking similar help. - -Speaking Sunday after a, special public meeting on rail relocation, Axworthy said,.‘‘I think what we did achieve attoday’s meeting is at least an understanding that the thing isn’t a rejected ssue," . ; ‘ : cost. . vo OE woe - An alternative to rail relocation involves .con- struction of a $65-million bridge over the, yards .to relleve traffic congestion in the area, and that's still the project that appears most likely to be decided upan, The decade-old dilemma ~ will have to be resolved soon: last week a city of- ‘ficial, Nick Diakiw, said - there is a “high probability”, that the two bridges now spanning the rail yards will - not last more than two years’ without major strengthening. | Japanese PM welcomed. | - OTTAWA (UPC) Japanese Prime Minister _ Masayoshi Ohira and Prime . Minister Pierre Trudeau . pledged today to increase the - already close ties between their two trading nations, | The Japanese leader, who actually arrived Sunday, was officially welcomed to Canada for a three-day tour by Trudeau’ at a brief Parliament Hill ceremony. Canadian and Japanese flags fluttered in a breeze as * Ohira was greeted by a 19- _ fun salute, Representatives of Ottawa's diplomatic community watched as Ohira atid Trudeau reviewed a unit of the Third Canadian Hussars, | "The visit, Trudeau told the _Japanese prime minister at the outdoor ceremony, will | “be seen in the future as an important: milestone. along the. road toward ever closer relations between our two countries.” aay “Canada and Japan ‘are - already’ friends but 1 am hoping this meeting wil] show thal we will hernme better friends,” Trudeau said. a Moments later, Ohira said’ : he hoped -“‘his visit would deeper relationship ... and even more diversified relationship for a better - future” with Canada, “We will co-operate together as neighbors across. the Pacific,’* he said through ‘a translator. . Ohira's plans for latter in the day included private talks with Trudeau and a speech to a joint session of . the House of Commons and Senate —- the. first to Parliament by a foreign leader since former US. - president Richard Nixon in | 1973. ot » Five get month. Five Iranian students from the University of Idaho, stranded in Vancouver when the 1S. government closed its doors to Iranians, have been given until the ‘end of the mauth to decide what to do.’ . ¢ : . — —Jer downtown ates involve risks | produce s broader and.