' * ghairman, — ‘They may know t - By StuDucklow Managing Editor Education students should serve internship programs in public schowls to give them more practical training, the provincial inquir into teacher education was teld here Thursday in the first of its ten hearings in B.C. - Teacher trainin programs should con- centrate more on the practical aspects of teaching and less -on jtheoretical matters the inquiry was told in briefs predented by parents, teachers and school trusteees before audience of about 20 at _ Northwest Community College. The six-member inquiry is headed by alcom MacGregor, professor emeritus at the University of B.C. and chairman of the B.C. education depart- ment’s joint board of teacher education. “T think youre telling us that the bad, old days produced the best student- 8," MacGregor replied to one teacher at the con- clusion of her presentation. “Pm all for old-style education,” he said in an interview later, ‘but that doesn’t mean learning how to fill out a register of pupils every day. A brief presented by Nick Keis, superintendant of eo es iti a d VANCOUVER (CP) - A spokesman for the Kitimat Oil Coalition, a group op- posing the contruction of a oil port at Kitimat, has criticized the West Coast oil ports inquiry and_ its. npn, Dr. Andrew Thom on, wee Pm ak “All West Coast people concenred about the idea of a Kitimat oil facility feel that this is their inquiry,” said Tony Pearse Wed- nesday. ‘“We fought to have this inquiry... but now it seems more a thing of the federal government and the commissioner.” He criticized Thompson's decision to move the hearings to the Victoria area next week, and said - port cpponents need more time to present their case. Thompson said such problems are one of the reasons he will travel to Ottawa next weektodiscuss . timing and financing of the inquiry: with federal jof- ficials. He also said the marine phase of the inquiry, scheduled to begin Nov. 14, ‘will be postponed until January to allow more rebuttal time after the commission complete: current hearilngs dealin with production, supply an demand and. At hearings Wednesday, jRoland Priddle, Ottawa's senior advisor on petroleum use, and William Matthews, of the department of energy mines and resources,. sai the evidence so far does not warrant a facility like the one proposed by the Kitimat Pipe Line Lid. cansortium. The Kitimat port would feed a pipeline to Edmonton for imported crude ‘oil, — The Ottawa witnesses said an expansion of an existing port-pipeline facility on the ' west coast seems favored on a cost-of-supply basis. They sail their first choice is a plan by which a pi gline from Portland, Me., lontreal would be used to its full capacity by in- creasing port storage and supertanker facilities. an - schools far the Nass Valley area and the Charlotte Islands, said the Nishga Indians in the Nass give education a higher priority than land claim settlements. ‘‘If education is goijg todo for a culture what the elders want done, than that's what we should do.” The Nishga Indians, who recently opened their own scheol in ceremonies earlier this week, have teacher aides giving instruction in their own language, he said, but these teachers can't be accredited. ‘‘In some school districts we have unique problems and there should some machinery to ac- commodate them,”’ he said. Mary Knoerr, a trustee in the Smithers School District, said the emphasis of teaching should on | child development. The best way to learn how to teach is to watch children learn, she said, Teachers seldom treat students with dignity, she added, reminding the inquiry that childrent are the real clients of the pubtic school system, yet no one had spoken on their behalf. ‘rhe inquiry, the first in the province since the early 19603, will trayel to Kamloops Dec. 8 for the second of its ten B.C. hearings. MacGregor, . who has been instructed to file a preliminary report by next January, said the inquiry will probably take . longer Queen. and additional hearings may hdye to be held. ‘We're hoping teachers will come and give us complaints, not - pretty words because the prin- cipal’s here,” he said. The terms of reference of the inquiry- to examine and report on the effectiveness of teacher training ‘ograms in jB.C.-- are ‘oad enough to include an investigation of special education, he said, and he’s hoping briefs will be sub- mitted on that subject. Another complaint told 7 the inquiry is that rural school districts often have to train new teachers which make up as much as 40 per. cent of local teaching staffs, “If we're to train) new teachers, we should get some of the money that’s oing to UBC and SFU in ancouver,” said Fred Bush, a trustee from Prince pert. A brief presented by a ioint committee of school rd = members and teachers in Smithers recommended that people starting a teaching career serve a one-year ap- prenticeship midway in their academic training. The Smithers brief also recommended more teacher courses in spotting reading difficulties and in classroom discipline: A committee of parents and tedchers atMount Elizabeth School in Terrace said teachers fail to com- municate with parents and only persons with the demonstrated ability to teach should be hired. The committee also recom- mended teachers be taught More about controlling classes and that a one-year TY sige Clarence Michael teacher dr Beverley Greening ad- Put practical concerns first heir theory, but can they teach? internship of new teachers should be mandatory. Universities should co- operate more with local -Bchools, schoolboards and the department of education, said Dale Fid- dick, reading a_ brief prepared by Kitimat ustees. Better selection of esses ‘the provincial inquiry into teacher education students is necessary to get better teachers, he added, but this can’t be accomplished without a definition of what constitutes good teaching. A Kitimat teacher in the audience said most of his education courses at the University of B.C. 15 years . papa Efe SegT thai ive ube d : ale : tal et LA late es suk wae YLGiviihey calor VBVeLia ago were irrelevent to his eareer and that most education teachers are incompetant. He suggested practicing teachers serve for short periods of time as education instructors in universities before returning to the education. She was one of that new teachers are often practical several who told the panel inadequately prepared for teaching. public school syatem. Though a majority of peoplein the audience are teachers, only three of them indicated in a show of hands that they favored the department of education granting teacher ac- creditation for life. of aspects the™herald| Serving Terrace, Kitimat, the Hazaltons, Stewart and ihe Nass | VOLUME 71 NO 129 Price: 20 cents al a Weather >) Cloudy with perlods of rain today. High around 5,|- overnight low near zero degrees. Saturday's outlook is much of the same. aN - Thompson Inquiry | B.C.:Washin VANCOUVER (CP) — Trans Mountain. Pipe Line’s Proposal for a two-way crude oil pipeline linkin Washington State wit pipelines in Canada will: remain alive as long as a chanee remains its terminus can be moved, the com- any’s president said ursday. K. L. Hall told the West Coast oil ports inquiry that recent United tates legislation putting Cherry Point and the rest of Washington’s Puget Sound off limits to supertankers Ouellet denies statement OTTAWA (CP) — Urban Affairs Minister’ Andre Ouellet denied in the Commons Thursday that he ever said publicly e had a list of all separatists in Quellet said the record shows that opposition MPs ‘andnews reports attributing such remarks to him were Mistaken. - Allan Larence (PC-- Northymberland-Durham) - has mehtioned such a list in questions to ministers. The minister was quoted by a newspaper report last Feb. 23 that he had a list of separatists .working for. Radio-Canada, the CBC's French arm. A Liberal: MP, who refused to be quoted by name said - Wednesday Ouellet hus-had copies of Parti Quebecois mem- bership | lists in his possession. mo McGeer gets ticket VANCOUVER (CP) — City police said Thursday that Education Minister Pat McGeer, the minister responsible for the In- surance Corp. of British Co- lumbia, was stopped Thursday at a radar trap and given a ticket for §) ' . Poles said McGeer was stopped in the 4300 block of West 1th avenue and given a ticket for travelling at 72 kilometres an howr—about 45 miles an hour. McGeer also was warmed about an expired vehicle safety Inspection sticker on e@ car, police sald, but added that the minister was wearing his seatebelt when stopped, - means the plan won't die as long as a chance remains, such as moving the terminal to Port Angeles, Wash., 18 miles across the Strait of Juan de Fuca from Victoria. Hall told the inquiry that: the. move to Port Angeles permitted by the legislation might lead to a supertanker oil port with more potential of environmental damage than the original Cherry Point plan. He said the Puget Sound legislation allows for ac- tivities such as submarine pipelines and virtuall limited mari y ne distribution of oil and: cil Products provided ships no er than 125,000 dead- weight .tons are used. ‘Meanwhile, said Hall, Trans Mountain’s existing FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 4, 1977 I used to only 30-per-cent capacity while the inquiry hears evidence on proposals to accommodate more su- pertankers on the West Coast, most specifically at Kitimat, B.C, MEET NEEDS : Hall and H. Peter Simon, his chief researcher, said that if existing systems were used more efficiently the crude oil needs - of Canada and the U.S. could be solved during the next decade without any one major new terminal or pipeline. . Under questioning by commissioner Dr. Andrew Thompson, Hall said his company doesn’t see the . Kitimat Pipe Line Ltd. - proceeds, ‘all possible. .. peline system is being. roposal for a pipeline inking Edmonton and deepsea oil port at Kitimat on the north coast “as a ood investment—we are - looking for better ways to spend money.” Hall said if an expected California-Texas E peline the itimat proposal could not be justified as a carrier of Alaska North Slope oil alone. Thom goes to Ottawa - on Monday to seek a major extension of time and funds. for the inquiry which y was scheduled to en ie December. ee earings are y. the second af’ six phases, . When hearin resume Nov. 14, they will be in the Victoria area for two weeks. By Ann Dunsmuir ; Herald staff writer An organization of con- servationists has been denied space in Kitimat's City Centre mall on the grounds it is too political, The City Centre Mer- chant’s Association has refused to allow local members -of the Canadian PScientifie- Pollution and Environinerital Control Society (SPEC) to take part in Community Organization Day, Saturday, at the mall. SPEC is a national, non- profit association devoted to informing the public of the hazards involved inthe misuse of the invironment. Community Organization Day is being held to allow area service clubs to raise funds on the mall, In - refusing request to have an in- formation booth in the mall, the executive of the mer- chant‘s association said in a letter Nov. 3 that "... as being merchants we are non-partisan and the mall is open to charitable and non- political groups only.” “Ali costs of maintaining the mall are borne by the tenants and the landlord, Lehndorff Property Manegement Ltd., Toronto, SPEC’s . and therefore they have control of the functions that are held in the mall.” SPEC applied for a permit © to use the mall Nov. 1 at the mall administrative office. The application was referred to Merchant Association president Vern Knutson, who ‘turned down ‘the request. SPEC “member - Bill’ Mikaloff said he was told by an administration Spokesman the group was anti-business and the merchants did not want them on the mall. “We are only trying to hand out jpublic information in a publie place,” Mikaloff said. ‘‘We are refused, but ht e Lions or the Kinsmen are allowed to present their perspective.” Executive member Susan Rotmiller said in a telephone interview that SPEC has, had information booths on the mall at several previous events. At such times they have circulated petition against the proposed Kitimat oil port, recruited new members and displayed educational material. She said an attempt was made to throw them out an one occasion even though Kitimat merchants keep out SPEC the had a valid permit. ‘‘I’ve been spit upon,” Rotmiller said. SPEC members plan to picket the mail Saturday in protest against the decision. ‘We feel our rights have been infringed Rotmiller said. Kurt Knoll, of Kitimat Radio and TV Enterprises, upon,” ‘said in a telephone interview | that he ‘agreed with the association's decision. He described SPEC as a “minority that wants to push everyone around.” He said the group was ‘too radical, a bunch of big Screamers, dopes and hippies.”' Knoll said he would like to see people who protest against oil pipelines put on a list and denied fuel in winter. Ald. Lee Ellis said the merchants pay high rents and upkeep and are entitled to have some say in what goes on in the mall. But in this case their decision seems ‘'short sighted. “Common sense should prevail,” she said. “SPEC doesn't have a wide base of support but they are citizens and have their rights. This kind of decision only sets in motion a confrontation."’ Colleges Act threatens faculty union at NWCC By Donna Vallleres Herald staff writer New provincial college act. passed Jast month is “bad news", according to Larisa Tarwick, president Larisa Tarwick, president of Northwest Community College faculty union, is upset with changes to the of the Northwest Com- munity College faculty union, . One of the results of Bill 82, the Colleges and Provincial Institutes Act, MRE Hticeoth ae provincial College Act which will affect cer- tification of college faculty. will be that college faculty will be the only workers in the province forced to recertify. their union, Tarwick said. itself is “This in our rights,’4 she added. All community colleges in | the province have untonized faculties with at least one union and often two or three, Tarwick explained, Changes brought about by Bill 82 mean that only one union can represent the faculty, and so the need for recer- tification. Recertification, o organizing a new union, is a lengthy process, jTarwick said, and the teachers could be without a contract. for months if they have to recertify. The Act also specifies what can be bargained for and also that the faculty will have to bargain with the college council. ““rhey’re using the boards a8 scapegoats,’? Tarwick said, becatse the board will though the pass ng down decisions y the ministry of for the faculty at the college will be an overall vote to find out if everyone wants to recertify. Tarwick said the problem with this move is that all vaculty at the college, from the principal to part-time teachers will part cipale in this vote which could fail to establish a union for the faculty. . If the vote passes, the ministry of education will decide who can participate in a second vote to devide which union will represent the faulty. “It looks like they're to rig the vote,” Tarwick said. Another point to consider, Tarwick stated, is that recertification will go through the Labor Relations Board, but the ministry of education can overrule the agency. Bill 62 takes precedence over the labor code, Tar- wick said, and this is something that has never done before in legiskation regardi onization. *“This is an arrogant piece of thinking,” she stated. ‘It’s as if (Education Minister Pat( MeGeer is saying, ‘I'm more important than the department of labor.’ orm Webster, academic head at the college and an executive on the Northwest Community College union, pointed out that the bill is part of the centralization process now going on in education in B.C. If the college develops a prograrn to fit the needs of students in the northest, the decision on whether the program would go ahead would be made in Victoria. “Most likely it would be negative,”' Webster said because they don’t un- derstand the north.” Conversely, the same is true, he said. Victoria might come up with program ideas which are not suitable for this area. For example, Vieloria has told college administration to add an extra carpentry course “when we're already tur- ning out an embarrassing number of people for whom there are no jobs," Webster ‘Stated, Ther is no flexibility in the provincial government's attitude toward education, he said, and you need flexibility to meet the needs of the people in a com- munity. Tarwick stated that what the government is trying to do is foist a cheaper form of education onto the colleges. “Education {s expensive but we need education,” she said. ‘We need an educated society.” «> There are cutbacks all over in education she said, and it appears that ‘the government is trying to save on education so that money can be spent elsewhere. Webster cited television education as one example of educatiional cost-saving which may not be the most efficient means of teaching. “They're pushing it as a reat new technical ad- vance," Webster said, “but is it?’ It's not unlikely the department of education would institute satelite education in the north because education costs are so high in this area because of the extensive travelling the teachers must do to cover the college district from Prince Rupert at Houston, Webster said, “Just because we have amall numbers of ople in the north we shouldn't get watered down education," Webster concluded. ; Concerning Bill 82 and what will happen to Nor- thwest Community College union, Larisa Tarwick is uncertain, McGeer has stated no major changes will occur until after March of next year, but “the whole act came down so quickly... we're skeptical.”