PAGE 2, THE HERALD, Friday, May 19, 1978 Winnipeg police use rough tactics WINNIPEG (CP) — The Tribune says it has evidence that a small number of Winnipeg policemen regulariy assault persons in their custody. The newspaper says the number of policemen in- volved is only between three and eight, but evidence suggests other members of the force occasionally resort ta rough tactics. The findings are being published as part of a series which the newspaper says was prompted by two recent court cases and other complaints it has received about the conduct of Win- nipeg policemen. The series is the result of three weeks of research which included interviews with lawyers, judges, criminals and former and present policemen. CONVICTIONS RARE Other conclusions The Tribune draws from its research include the following: A-G wants project TORONTO (CP) - Ontario Attorney -Genetal" Roy McMurtry says Canada’s 10 provincial attorneys-general want federal permission to let more convicts serve their sentences outside of prison working on community projects. “It has been discussed by the other altorneys -general and there isno opposition” to asking the federal govern- ment to amend the Crimianl Code to treat community service orders a3 a separate type of sentence, McMurtry said in an interview Wed- nesday after a speech to he John Howard Society of Canada. He said his ministry has asked that community service orders be given a status separate from probation orders to reinforce their importance as an alternative to imprisonment. McMurtry said there are now about 600 Ontario men and women--all convicted of non-violent crimes--serving sentences by. performing community work ranging from helping senior citlzens to cleaning up Play grounds. Community service orders now are a form of probation and Ontario has seven ex- perimental projects where persons under such tences perform community work, He said current thinking is that imprisonment should be viewed as a last resort reserved for the relatively few dangerous individuals. ‘ ' 387-3368 or 3369, Ren Weighscale Sranch, Parliame —Convictions or disciplinary action against members of the Winnipeg police force are rare. The newspaper says this is partly because policemen usually are the only witnesses to asssaults by other policemen and partiy because of the procedures in place to handle complaints. of brutality. —Juveniles are among those likely to be abused, perhaps because of frustration among po- licemen at the lenient treatment of young offenders by the courts. ~—Abusive tactics by policemen age sometimes condoned by inimediate supervisors but not by higher-ranking police of- ficials. —The apparent motivation for rough tactics in many eases is the desire by. policemen to obtain signed confessions, rather than being forced to collect in- dependent evidence for use in court, —Persons arrested by police are sometimes denied access to lawyers. Because of this, an accused person may sign a confession before he has had the benefit of legal advice. CALLS [T REHASH Chief Norm Stewart described the series as largely a rehash of cases already on the publie record. Manitoba Attorney- General Gerry Mereler said he has no plans for a special inquiry. He said the Manitoba Police Com- mission is reviewing one specific allegation of police brutality and has the power to expand its work into a general investigation. “F’m not going to tell them what to do,” he said. Meanwhile, lawyer Jeff Ginden said he has easily had 100 “worthy” com- plaints about police conduct. in hig seven years of prac- tice. The difficulty, he said, Is obtaining hard evidence. “A guy's got bruises that are fading and could have come from anywhere, He says he got punched in the stomach and face but there's no medical evidence.” FEW ARE LAUNCHED Relatively few formal complaints have been launched against the police In recent years and fewer still have got past the Winnipeg Police Com- mission, the city council agency that has some supervisory control over the police department. ‘The newspaper says that in one case, the police officer assigned to investigate a complaint filed with the commission was the sergeant who had taken the confession of the man mak- ing the complaint. In another incident-—-one that ended up 4s a civil suit in court—a policemen on duty at the time of an alleged _ beating did not testify in court because he had gone fishing. The suit was diamissed. . Hymie Weinstein, a vice- president of the Manitoba Trial Lawyers Association, . said another police force, perhaps the RCMP, should investigate complaints as an alternative to “internal” police investigations. And he sald judgments should be handed down by an independent body, perhaps similar to arbitration boards now used to resolve labor- . Management disputes. See for Honda Civic Sedan TERRACE HONDA SALES. 4842 Hwy. 16 West 635-6571 oF 635-4325 if at Terrace, B.C. VéG IL Dealer Licence 02066A - OTTAWA (CP) — Indian affairs officials received an uncomfortable grilling before a Commons com- mittee Thursday as they attempted to explain how they overspent their Sas- katchewan budget by $14 million last year. Rod Brown, an assistant deputy minister, said the Saskatchewan region hes a history of overexpenditure, but never before had it been as high as $14 million. He added that money -to cover the additional spending was taken from other areas of the Indian affairs program. 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