EDMONTON, (cP) — Cathy Kleser,. her. "hands clasped tightly in her tap, talke sadly’ ‘about the mother and father she feels she lost” toa breakaway Roman Catholic sect. ‘ .“Tfelt like T never had parents," she sald of her years in a remote monastery near. St- Jovite,Que., of a childhood lost ‘to‘rigorous : discipline | arid- a religtous-* order“ that separated children from: parents and four sisters from their brother. What were once close family bonds linking parents and five children in the Kieser family are‘now-marked by sadness — bitterness, even — on both sides. Cathy’ 5 mother, ‘mown as Sister Claire of the Immaculate, discussed -her children by. phone from her retreat in the Laurentian’ ‘Mountaing: She still loves the three children - who abandoned the controversial Apostles of Infinite Love, but she’s deeply disappointed ; with them. . “They resent the fact-we brought them away from society which we felt was just a little too corrupt for our own standards. aa Porn spreads message that Church in. the early 1960s: The children Tanged in age from one to nine when’ they entered the sect. . “ Cathy, her: sister, Janice, 29, ‘and: brother, . . Greg,'27, left the sect between 1976 and 1981, driven out by a way of life they could no - longer accept. They say they decided to break silence about their experiences now not out of a sense - of revenge, but to give other families who might be on the point of joining an insight into the conflict between world and piety that + was to tear the Edmonton family apart. _ -The ascetic religious sect, which considers itself the true Catholic Church and its leader the legitimate pope, embraces :a. life of poverty and isolation from society. Cathy, Janice and Greg rejected the scrupulous discipline of the Apostles, and . returned to the outside world, Their parents ing - and two sisters emain,’ fixed in devotion toa” feats et who ‘turned to'the Apostles of © Infinite Love to:help them cope with the’ | splritial turmoil.‘created when winds ‘of change swept through the Roman Catholic: life of prayer, penance and rejection: of ‘a society they s see as wicked, permissive and ‘doomed. LIFE STRICT ‘The three who itt recalled childhoods pent — in prayer, fasting, long periods of silence ara “blind obedietica,’::: “We're not trying to get at our parents, ” ‘sald Cathy, a short, blue-eyed young woman | with soft, brown curls falling across her shoulders. “I love them. I want them with us. They're not the ones. ‘who make the rules. “They're just followers.” Janice, blue-eyed, brown-haired, with a ready smile, is married and a mother herself. She agreed with her sister: “We're not out to destroy Mom or Dad or get revenge or anything like that.” ; ' Sister Claire, recalled by a family friend in- Edmonton as'a mischievous, fun-loving wife and mother 20 years ago, moved to St-Jovite with the children and her carpenter husband in 1965. She said they were driven by a distaste for changes in the Catholic Church "We sold everything we had in the. world to. try to build a little society that was away from ‘all the corruption we thought existed,” she: ‘explained, The Aposiles, led by Gaston Tremblay, -have endured for more than 20 years despite . legal battles — ‘Tremblay has .been jailed ‘twice’ and accusations of child abuse and homosexuality. But the number of followers at the St-Jovite monastery has fallen from a 1976 peak of about 500 adults and 150 children to about 225 adults and 10 children. The group has missions in Guatemela Puerta Rico, Guadeloupe, the Dominican Republic, Florida, upper New York state, ' Vancouver, Winnipeg, Toronto and a dozen Quebec towns. Tremblay, a fiery speaker known , to believers as Father Jean Gregoire de la Trinite and the true pope, left a Catholic nursing order in 1956 without taking priestly vows and set out to establish traditionalist missions in Quebec, A bearded, lanky man who wears brown robes | and a skullcap, The Herald, Thursday, May 10, 1966,,Page 7 1d obedience: ‘Tremblay assumea the tne ot pope in 1968. i ‘His message found fertile ground in: Quebec, where a devout, conservative: Catholic society was in the throes of profound social changes known as the Quiet / { Revolution. i The Kieser children describe Tremblay as a i genius — a dynamic and inspirational leader ? able te sway his flock with his vision of | salvation. Their mother calls him a tater ay i St. Francis of Assisi. The Kiesers and other relatives, including 25 cousins, were among the first families tea take up residence at the monastery. Only nine of the cousins, now all in thelr 20s, remain, including Kieser sister Michelle, 28, who is. described as retarded and an epileptic, and’* 24-year-old Leanne. “We made a lot of sacrifices to try to form a little Christian society," Sister Claire said in the telephone interview. “It isn't just religious, it’s a Christian society. Sor us that’s the main thing. It isn’t being successful in the world, it’s being able to live a good Christian life and die right, That's what's Important to us.” Religious _ PITTSBURGH (AP) — Doris Robin Hood repents embezzled by forging his signature Pere! letter? Ct) et ht Lia lawyer said that donation has Sexual abuse is enjoyable . “TORONTO (CP). — A may who sees -enough pornography that shows difficult, for men to recognize the violent or_ abusive nature of some" Chapin stole $160,000 from the rich and gave most of it to the poor, But now the admitted embezzler has . repented and is asking Rev. Jerry : Falwell, Rev. Jimmy Swaggert . and other TV evangelists to return the money she gave them. “It appears none of the stolen ; money. went to her own family, although there -was'a need,” said - on company cheques, Hinch said. At least $15,000 went to church ‘and evangelistic organizations around the United States, Epstein said. The judge who sentenced Chapin on March 27 to seven years’ probation also ordered her to ask for that money back. °° ‘The groups are under no. legal obligation to return the money, already been returned to the court. George, Stoval, who monitors donations to Roberts’s group, declined Tuesday to say what would be done with the money, saying Roberts’s response was . “confidential.” ; The court found that, despite her own money problems arising from her elderly mother’s medical bills, = women enjoying sexual ‘pornography because “the James Epstein, an assistant - Epstein said, but most appear Chapin gave most of the money to j abuke may wind up message is: ‘She loves it.’ district attorney in Mercer County, ready to do so, families who could not meet g women like being “Clearly, this is a rape where Chapin was prosecuted. RETURN THE MONEY mortgage payments or buy raped, saya a psychology pro tr who recently completed a study of the myth. These videotapes do not in any way reflect the true reality of rape and “It's a very ‘unusual case.’* In tearful testimony, Chapin said she had embezzled from Seidel “We wouldn’t want to be in- volved in an illegal action,"’ said Betty McTaggert, an official at the groceries. “everything she did was for other people,” testified Raymond effects of video “sex other forms of sexual ‘Sand and Gravel Inc. of Jefferson Jimmy. Swaggert Ministries of DeRaps of Greenville. She and her material on 400 men, -assault.”’ - Township, where the mother of Baton Rouge, La, “It would be our husband said Chapin helped their “In fact, our past One Toronte man who four worked as a bookkeeper and moral responsibility to return the family of six from March. 1981 research has - demon- strated that this is exactly whatican happen to the cipated In. the study said he thought few of the films were truly — her husband was a supervisor. The scheme went on for “six or | seven years,’ said Chapin's money,” Epstein’s office said Swaggert received about $1,000, while through November 1992 by buying them furniture, | children's clothing, food and gasoline. Lif Tet. PP ee ee ee oe bry pornography viewer,” degrading, but said no lawyer, Lorinda Hinch, with the = Falwell's Old Time Gospel. Hour The couple must pay back the |=: James Check of York matter how much-he saw last theft occurring in October received $1,449, Among the larger $76,000 in embezzled funds for j‘~ University in Toronto said he could never become a 1982. A company vice-president © donations was $3,860 ta’ the Oral which Chapin was prosecuted. The J} ° . Wednesday. rapist, discovered it, ’ Roberts Evangelistic -Assuciation statute of limitations had expired In the tests, the men “I see people all the time . 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