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; their helicopter.

: The engineers, identified by the U.S, Defence Depart-

: ment as Robert Green and Christopher Waitin, were taken
ito Palmerola, a military base 78 kilometres north of
z ; Tegucigalpa, the Hondurasn capital. Their helicopter was

i downed near the Nicaraguan-Honduran border.

i Air Force Secretary Verne Orr said in Tegucigalpa on
: Tuesday that Chief Warrant Officer Jeffry Schwab “‘died in
icold blood in Honduran ‘territory from shots fired by

i Nicaraguan soldiers on the other side of the.border,”’

Nicaraguan officials say their- troops shot at the
{helicopter while it was in Nicaraguan airspace but deny
:U.S. allegations that its soldiers shot and killed Schwab

fafter he landed on the Honduran side of the border.

{ Nicaragua’s Defence Minister Humberto Ortega .said“
‘Tuesday the helicopter was part of a CIA plan to help rebels °

toverthrow the leftist government'in Nicaragua:

Paget, Th Herald, Wesesday, January 18,1504 me

CIA shocks:

A city woman who Says she was
i given more than 100 electric shocks in a CIA-sporisored
: experiment 23 yeors ago still can’t remember having her

Linda Macdonald, now a rehabilitation officer with ‘the
; provincial Human Resources Ministry, is one of two woren
i who approached The Province Tuesday to tell about, their
i ordeal at the hands of. Dr. Ewen Cameron i in Montreal |

When she returned home from the institute, Macdonald
i Said she decided to have a sixth child, so she could again
i experience motherhood after the controversial electric-
j Shock treatments had wiped ont the memory of the first 26

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Chile’s generals

HERBERT G. GRUBEL
The Fraser Institute -

the question of democracy and the military junta.

|. that {t is possible.
‘| cannot understand the reasons for this attitude

_ May give some Indication ot its origin.
The junta does not run the kind of dictatorship that

criticism of the regime's policies is permitied in the
media. There 1s no evidence of a secret police agent in
every crowd. In meetings of all size people discussed
politics with me freely, Canadians can enter the caun-

and lead to less violent clashes with the police than in
Germany, the United States and many other
democratic countries. ;

The regime is not cotrupt and its leaders are not

Chicago boys had been governor of the central bank for
, five years and minister of finance for one year. He is
. now back teaching economics at the university. His

" assets before and after joining the government.

° How this junta deals with enemies of the state, I on-
ly know from Western media. The. fact that former
- finance ministers are not dead, in jall or abroad is an
important reflection of how the regime deals with those
who are no longer in favor:

There were no signs In my hotel recommending the use.
of chains and extra door locks, During my visit
downtown streets and parks, even iate at night, were

i fountains, window-shopping and the signs of other well,
dressed strollers. ;
In a tennis club changeroom my host’ suggested
tat Tleave my wallet in my slacks hanging on an open
rac
A recurring themé in discussion with Chileans is
the notion that the generals and the army are theirs.

designed primarily to help the generals to stay ‘in
power and enjoy the good life. The policies are design-:
ed primarily to assure a prosperous and safe country,

dealing. with major areas of government policies.

are sitting on these boards,
While the junta appears to be a rather benevolent

recall the Allende tragedy.-A country that had many
decades of a workable democracy saw the reins of
government taken over by a president who received 30
per cent of the popular vote. In short order he changed
all of the old rules of tie game and property rights.

year, Stores were em pty. One
physical abuse he sultered trom bullies during his first
year at university, which he resented especially since
his political sympathies were with the left. A woman
told me how she took off her rings because their!
Presence Invited bullying onthe street.

Milltary advisers from Russia, East Germany and
| Cuba blandished their uniforms in ‘public. Their exper-
tlse was needed not for protection from external

ship of the lett.

When the junta deposed Allende and expelled the
foreign advisers, there was dancing In tha streets. The
politicians and fefilat ideologues behind Allende were
not killed. We have enjoyed the presence of many of:
them in Canada. Some of them are retuming to Chile
now, Some Chileans claim that Allende killed himself.

I have no way of checking the accuracy of these.
episodes and stories. I don't know and no one told me
how many people are held In political prisons In Chile.

Ido not like dictatorships of the right or of the left, .
however benevolent they may be. Eventually, power
corrupts and is used against the people. But I can
understand why so many Chileans are weary of a
return to their traditional. democracy that once
brought them so close to the edge of a totally irreversi-
ble dictatorshIp of the left.

] pray that soon this weariness will be gone and
Chile can have free elections.

During my recent visit for an academic conference
in Chile, conversation with the locals often turned to -

eng ae AR Re ECT ce BE RR ISR JOR Te te TRO eh ia ie pel a Re le caliediamniceneeabemalital L

“the other vietim, joan De Long, wife of ‘Tom De'Long
prominent Vancouver insurarite executive, said’: in:

_ separate interview she also received more than 100 lect . °

shocks in the mind-control experiments inthe’ early:
Both | women are now in their late 40s.

They were “referred to ' Cameron ‘for ‘treatinen -
psychiatric problems and neither woman was aware what.
the treatment would entail.
NINE SUE °

Nine Canadiana, including Velma ‘Orlikow, ite of
Winnipeg member, of Parliament David Orlikow,’ and
Vancouver. resident Robert Logie, - are’ suing. the US,
_ government for. #1 million each for damage aiteted in, ‘the

US. pilot Killed in cold ‘blood says US.

TEGUCIGALPA, Honduras (AP) — A US, pilot .was
? killed “in cold blood" last week by Nicaraguan soldiers,
‘says the secretary of the U.S. Air Force after a meeting
! with two U.S, Army engineers who survived the downing of

Ortega said the plan includes forays irito Nicaraguan air
space by U.S, military aircraft and the use of Honduran
soldiers, dressed in rebel uniforms, to aid the Insurgents.

In Washington, Defence Department spokesman Michael
Burch said the helicopter was off course by about: 40
kilometres, U.S. officials have said the helicopter was

flying to.the site of an airfield that U.S. army engineers are”

improving for joint U.S, ‘Honduran mililtary exercises, .
OTHER DEVELOPMENTS °

There were these other developments in Central Anieria
on Tuesday: >.

— Col. Carlos’ Reynaldo Lopez Nuila of the Salvadoran
army said Capt, Eduardo Alfonse Avila, linked by subor-
dinates to the murder of two U.S. land reform advisers, can
no longer be legally held in jail,

 Avila's uncle is one of the Supreme Court’s 13 justices; os

and: ‘U.S, and. Salvadoran sources requesting anonymily. .
_ Said’ the uncle - Pressured. authorities for his nephew's,
‘yelease, ° ”., :

Witnesses have testified inlourt that ‘Avila was invol ed.

in the January 1981. murders of Michael Hammer, . 42, ‘of:

Potomac, Md.,. and’ Mark Pearlman, 36, of Seatile, who
worked ‘for the AFL-ClO's Andere. Institute for, Free

Labor Development.

- Proposals. don’t go. far

VANCOUVER (cP) — Justice Minister ‘Mark

. MacGuigan’s latest proposals to curb prostitution don’t go
‘far enough, Mayor Mike Harcourt said Tuesday.

“Close, but no cigar,’’ Harcourt commented after
MacGuigan announced in Ottawa he plans to revive
legislation that would allow police to charge cust@mers as
well as prostitutes with soliciting and would expand the

definition of a public space to include cars.

.The.mayor said the changes don’t deal with the difficulty

police have proving a prostitute was pressing or persistent 7
in attracting a customer,

“eryone I spoke to sald that they Jong for areturn |
lo democracy as soon 48 possible. But hone thought.

° fully. But the following bits of information I obtained

led to the revolutions in Cuba and Nicaragua. Public .

iry without visas. Public demonstrations are permitted |

obviously accuniulating vast wealth. One of the

.. financial status has not changed. He had to reveal his -

’ the absence of negotiations, In fact such a view-is a |
Public honesty and safety in Chile are remarkable. ~

~ full of strollers enjoying balmy alr, smells of late spr-"'
* ing flowerlng bushes and trees, the cascading watersof .

.. talks about the limitation of strategic arms. Even this
What they mean is that the junta polictes are not ‘0+:

Every general in the junta has an advisory board”

Representatives from major interest groups in sociely .

dictatorship, Chileans 1 met readily and eniotionally ©

Inflation jumped to several hundred per cent per y
rson told me of -

enemies but to create a.new Internal order, adictator- «

llya-Geral’s
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' Sterling News vervice:
Feature

will the Soviets
' ever come back?. .

For the first time in 20 years there are no negotia- ‘
tions going on or any contact regarding the issue of *
disarmament and control over strategic weapons, ; :

The U.S.S.R. walked out of Geneva immediately
after the American Pershing 2, and crulse missiles ‘|

started to be deployed dn Western Europe. This move | |

deeply impressed all those who belleved that even'the. .
obvious Russian superiority in weapons is better than

quasi-Intellectual form of the ald slogan, “Better red.’
-thandead”. .
- “Think for a moment. The Soviet $S-18, 8-19, and
55-20 missiles have been deployed in Eastern Europe. '

for more than three years, And the United States has | ¢

never allowed ltself to walk out of the same negotia-. .
tions In Geneva, Only when the- balance of power
started to to slowly be restored, did the U.S.S, R, break off |-
. é t: *

To make the medicine more bitter and more effec- | &

tive with regard to propaganda impact, Moscow also. -
‘ withdrew Its representatives from other Important

did not seem to be enough. The Waraaw Pact countries ;
also left the European disarmantent talks. - ,
- Does all this mean, as the.U.5.5,R, tries to con-
_vinee us, that NATO's decision, to match the Russians |
in military might is rapidly bringing us to a nuclear
confrontation? -

Fortunately for the world the development of
events is not as simple as the movie The Day Aflerpor-
trays it. Neither the U.S.S.R, nor. the U.S. want the
world, s Including themselves, to disappear ina nuclear

lame.

Now, as never before, the Mascow strategists have

. realized that NATO will no longer tolerate the military —
inferiority which opens the way for political blackmail
and gives the U.S.§.R, the desired opportunity to gain
domination without war, -

. It is relatively unknown in the West that almost 20
per cent of high technology in the Soviet Union (andthe

. Most vital part) is received from the free world: The
modern. economy cannot exist without this kind of

_ technology.

That is why the USSR, ‘while threatening the °

_ West with milltary confrontation, 1a continuing to plan
foreign trade and industrial exchange for decades
ahead. At the very moment when Moscow was walking
out of Geneva and Vienna, two big Industrial exhlbi-
tions by European and American companies were
opening In the Soviet Union and algnifieant deals were
being made.

In & recent statement of Andrei Gromyko, ‘the
Soviet forelgn minister, about the future developiment
of East-West relations, one can fluid some unusually op-
timistic notes, It looks as if the Soviets for the first time
reallze thal in the two remaining decades of the 20th
century they have to live with the true balance of
power and the parity of military might between two
ideological blocs.

That 1s why in 1984 they will come back to the
-negotiating table, But, unlike prévious yeats, they will
be talks betweeh equals. And therefore the results of
these talks will tot be merely ad illusion, as has hp-
pened many times vefore, but practical measures to
reduce the nuclear threat.

We should be patient and strong. And then the
world has hope.

io wos besos: ao sep mri tlt Le lye a

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' Windshield.& Auto Glass 7

“ expetiments.

A spokesman for: External - Alfairs Minister’ Allan

> Dilys. Buckley-Jones, sald. ‘in Oltawa the. Canadian

‘government has failed:to obtain a list. of patients. from.
Cameron's clinic because he ‘died jin a “molintaineering,  p
: accident in 1967. His records: have: ‘never been found...

' “The U.S apologized and’ expressed : ‘regret,!’. she. ‘said,

adding that government « officials had tried in vain to get full -

records from the CIA,

“The director. of the ‘Salvadoran Agrarian: Reform
Institute, Jose Rodolfo Viera, 39, was also killed. -

hideouts used by leftist rebels to mount attacks on a key
bridge in eastern El Salvador, . military sources-said.
The rickety ‘trestle bridge, 80 kilometres east of ‘the’

capital over the Lernpa River, is‘one of two remaining links ~.-

between eastern and western parts of the country.. Two
‘other important bridges were blown up by rebels during the.
Jast two years. ~—

*—In Mexico’ City, Ruben : Zamora, a Salvadoran leftist:

" leader, said a U.S. bipartisan report on Central America

‘was a “‘waste of time and: ‘money.”

In Guatemala, an atmy spokesman reacted to rumors ot
_of an imminent coup by saying the military stands behind

‘the current chief of state’. 's plans: for elections: this July. .

of State Gen. Oscar Humberto Mejia’ Victores,’

— Also in’ Guatemala, police reported a: four-year-old ‘girl
.died after rebels fired machine-guns and tossed grenades at -

five police stations throughout the cily,

The, attack: Monday night wounded 13 police officers, |

police said.

“Four prostitutes would have to drag, a fellow ito, 8 back -
alley and put a half-Nelson on him before it's considered ' a
"pressing and persistent,” he said. _ in

Nor do the amendments.do anything to help police: jail 2
pimps, the mayor said. However, Harcourt applauded the,”

proposed changes for - “dealing with the sexism and.”
discrimination” involved when only prostitutes, not their:

‘customers, are allowed under current laws to be arrested.

MacGuigan said that.within the next. several. weeks —
while awaiting , the Teport of a federal committee holding
cross-country. hearihgs on pornography and prostitution _
he will reintroduce amendments to the Criminal Code that
were not-passed:by the last session of Parliament.

More significant changes to prostitution laws will have to

wait until-the special committee, headed by Vancouver .
lawyer Pail, Fraser, mans its report at the end of the year,
-MacGuigai, said, ”

MacGr! igan said the t new.laws will I help. cities auch as
Vancouver, where prostitutes, customers and. “hooker

lookers” are a serious noise and harassment | problem,

particularly, in some residential areas.

The two Vancouver. -wome now'are e seeking tegal advice...

MacEachen, said Tuesday’ that. then-preaident - Jimmy ..
". Carter had issued an executive order to’ énsure such a thing oe
‘would never happen again:- “ae

‘since seceiving. the treatment,

the.U.5,- -government should. be. made. to pay.
“NO IDEA f

me was told J received 109 electric shocks in a period ¢ of | .
five y weeks, I havé-no recollection of 26 years of my. lite.” >

“She aaid ahe. Kept quiet about her ordeal after the CIA: .
experiments came ‘to light four years ago because she was -
_ Worried the disclosure would affect her job,, but now f feels

“Her father, Bill Macdonald of suburban ‘Surrey, who Was |

, idireetbr of public relations for the Canadiaf Broadcasting
Corp. between, 1960 and 1964, said he visited his daughter'in -

oo Allan Memori several times, but at the time, had no idea :
“what Was goin
oo 'co When she. came home she couldn’t remember her first
|. five children, 50 she had another one,” he said. ate
~* \/Joan,De Long'has' been keeping a diary for the last. 0
-” years. In-it, she, Jota down the things that she remembers of of

‘the first 25 years of her life.
She too spid“she was given more than 100 shocks. in

> Cameron's clinic over. ‘six months from September . 1961" to
— Salvadoran air force planes bombed: and ‘strafed ©

March 1962, |

One of the ‘things that c: came to her recently ‘WBS an image
of Cameron telling: her: that’ she had been al the clinic for

only six weeks.

“] was sitting ina “chair and a man was making | a

movie,” she said. ‘There were other people i in the room and -
he said, ‘Joan, I’m going to ask you how long you've been

_ here, Say six weeks,’,”. °

Mr. .De Long ‘confirmed that his wife was in Allen ;
Memorial for six months and received “s terrific number of |

shocks, mo

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