_ After the Second of the Communist Party of Cuba, Prime Min- ister Maurice Bishop of Grenada spoke to journalists at a Christmas day press conference which included the Tribune’s Havana co} Paul Coast. Gre- nada, the southernmost of the windward islands with a population of 110,000, successfully carried out its revolution on March 13, 1979 with the overthrow of the corrupt Gairy regime. Prime Min- ister Bishop describes the achievements and problems of the past two years and the tasks ahead. * “7 * Why did the New Jewel Movement join the Socialist International? BISHOP: We want to broaden and diversify our relations with different social forces, political organizations and progressive peoples around the world. The Socialist International rep- resents .. . some of our own aspirations and objectives and goals. Within the ' organization we’ll try to focus on the issues of major concern to us: anti- imperialist, anti-colonialist, anti-neo- colonialist, anti-racist issues. _ We believe in that way membership in a body like the Socialist International can effectively complement our work in the Non-Aligned Movement and can also effectively complement our inter- nal affairs. You said during the Congress that there are signs of ‘‘dangerous imperialist adventures”’ against Grenada. How will your country defend itself against enemy aggression? BISHOP: Our feeling is that the Rev- olution can only be built, and therefore defended, if we observe some very basic principles. As we see it, it’s necessary for us to rapidly engage in increasing production — in that way, building a sound national economy, breaking our dependence on im- perialism, and also in that way being able to provide social and economic benefits for our people. The second thing, we feel, is that it’s Necessary for us — always — to mobilize and organize our people for democratic participation in the affairs of the country. We feel that that will also have the effect of promoting unity at a deeper level. And the third thing, as we see it, is the need to build a strong defence capacity so that the people of | the country will be in a position to de- fend their own Revolution if and when they’re faced with any external attack. In terms of the military preparation, what we have been doing is building. Using our present permanent, standing army, largely as a mobilizing tool, we . have been building a war-time army based on the people. In other words, we have been trying to recruit, as rapidly as possible, and to train in the use of all the weapons we now have, those people in our country belonging to the militia. So that in a situation of extemal attack we will not have to rely only on the People’s Revolutionary Army — the permanent army — but we will have in fact a war-time army based on the people. : This work has been going very well. Thousands of Grenadians have been recruited, are learning how to use the weapons, and are falling into the dif- ferent formations of the army, from squad level right up to battalion level. We fiow have a capacity to mobilize these forces in a very short period of time. TRIBUNE PHOTO — KERRY McCUAIG 4 entirely different role to play in the Grenadian Prime Minister Maurice Bishop (left) with economic minister Unison Whit- GRENADA FIGHTING man ... the revolution is only two years old but the hardest part is yet to come. How do things look on the education and production fronts in Grenada? BISHOP: To be very frank about it, we’ve been able to achieve a lot more success in the area of education than in the strictly productive area. Nonethe- less, I think it is true to say that we have reasonably fulfilled the national slogan of ‘‘Education and Production’’ which we proclaimed at the beginning of 1980. In the area of education, as you know, we have started an adult literacy campaign conducted through. the Centre for Popular Education. Gre- nada, however, does not have a major illiteracy problem as such. The largest estimate we have now for illiteracy is about 7% of the population. Certainly the scale of our problem is nothing compared with what Cuba faced, what our Nicaraguan comrades have been facing, or even more dramat- ically — what the Ethiopian people faced when they inherited something like 95% illiteracy. Nonetheless, our view is that every single illiterate must be made literate. j We have opened, for example, a fishing school, a tourism school, in-ser- vice police and public servants training Bishop’s message to Trib readers — To our own nationals, to Carib- bean nationals, indeed to all demo- cratic, progressive and socialist forces in Canada; We very greatly value the work you have done in | supporting the Revolution over the past 22 months. We feel you're strategically lo- cated for helping to further expose the contradictions between Cana- dian foreign policy and U.S. foreign policy and in helping the Govern- ment of Canada to see that it has an Caribbean than the role chosen by the military-industrial complex and successive governments of the United States. You also have a major role to play in combating ad- verse propaganda against the Rev- olution. We hope all of you comrades, ip- cluding our own nationals, will find the time to. come to Grenada to see “for yourselves what has been happening these past 22 months. * schools, and a militia school. We have also greatly expanded the agricultural _ training school. We have started, as of October, a teachers’ in-service pro- gram which is aimed at training 80% of the unqualified teachers in our country over the next three years. The previous training programs trained only 50 teachers every two years and in fact, usually by the end of those two years, about half of them would migrate. We have doubled the number of places for children attending secondary schools, particularly through the open- ing of a new secondary school last Sep- tember. It should be pointed out that that is only the second government se- condary school to have been opened after 300 years. The British colonialists left one secondary school. The other eleven were all built by the churches. We have also been able to do quite a — lot in the area of higher education. At this point, more than 220 Grenadians are studying in universities abroad. In the last year before the Revolution only three Grenadians went abroad on university scholarships. In the area of the economy, we have been able to increase agricultural production. We have begun to diversify “and expand agriculture. We have opened a number of factories based on agriculture — a coffee processing plant for example, and an agro-industrial plant which produces jam, jellies and fruit products. It’s a multi-processing plant. The work that has been done in fishing is also important, both in terms of increasing the overall quantity of our catch and teaching new skills to our fishermen. In tourism, for the first time, a state sector has appeared. The state now owns and runs three hotels and has a majority shareholding in a fourth. And, of course, we have plans for expanding that program. Unemployment is down from 50% before the Revolution to about 35% after the first year. A national planning mechanism is being created. Not only did we inherit a completely demoralized bureaucracy, but we also inherited a bureaucracy that was not geared for planning of any kind. At the time of the Revolution there was only one economist in the whole _ government. Overall, we are not satisfied with our success in the productive areas. In 1981 that is going to be much more of a task for us than the social areas. BACK How about some personal reflections on what you’ve gone through and what the country’s gone through over the past two years? What can we expect to see in Grenada over the next two or three years? BISHOP: It's often been said that taking power is much easier than main- taining power and building an econ- omy. My personal experiences over the past two years have proven this to be more than correct. The work has in- creased ten-fold. The ideological and theoretical work has to continue. in- cluding at this stage. the very top leadership having to personally be guides in study. The propaganda work has to continue. The organizational work has to continue. On top of that, the Party now has a role to play in help- ing to build the economy and the state apparatus. As for the next two or three years, we expect the pressures to increase, cer- tainly in the context of the existing reg- ional and international situations. It is clear the Revolution is facing its gravest dangers. The period of the next three to four months, in particular, is going to be a very critical period. There have been calls by the most reactionary spokes- men in the region to have us expelled from CARICOM:# the Caribbean Com- munity organization. And, of course, we are integrally linked to the whole CARICOM movement. Therefore, these calls are being very closely moni- tored by us and we have been doing everything necessary to ensure that the plans of the imperialists and their spokesmen in the region are not successful. At the same time, I am sure that over the next two years we ate going to see the economy more and more stabilized, more and more consolidated, more and more diversified and expanded. We are also confident that the unity .of our people will also increase. That the political consciousness of our mas- ses will be deepened. That the class consciousness our workers will also go . forward and that the. vanguard role of the Party will also develop. — Is it true there are more Grenadians living outside the country than inside the country? How is the government coping with this phenomenon? BISHOP: In fact, about five times the population of Grenada lives out- side Grenada. We have been seeking to develop the closest organizationa! contacts with our Grenadian nationals abroad. For those with particularly important skills, required by the Rev- olution, we have been encouraging them to return home. And many of them have come back and have been working in a very patriotic way for the very small salaries we can afford to pay them. Secondly, we have been encourag- ing all Grenadian nationals abroad to invest in government airport bonds, in treasury bonds, and also to put some of their money in the National Com- mercial Bank of Grenada — the bank created by the Revolution. We have also been looking for moral and material support in other forms. Apart from Party organizations ab- road they have also been joining organizations such as the Canada- Grenada and the United States-Gre- nada Friendship Associations. Through those organizations they have been doing a good job of promot- ing the goals and objectives of the Revolution. =! PACIFIC TRIBUNE—JAN. 30, 1981—Page 7