La Candelaria from Colombia is perhaps the most renowned independent theater group in Latin America today. It was founded in 1966 and has participated in many national and international theater festivals. It won the prestigious Casa de las Americas prize in Havana In 1976. One of La Candelaria’s members re- cently visited New York City. During her stay she was interviewed by Cindy Hawes, World Magazine staff member. The interview has been divided into two parts. Q: When and how did. La Candelaria get started? : A: La Candelaria was founded in 1966 by Santiago Garcia, who is the group’s director today, and by several actors, artists and musicians. It was originally called Casa deja Cultura and was intended to be part of a house for all types of cultural activities — a gallery, movie club, concerts — but, of course, there was no financial aid. The theater group was the only thing that was able to maintain itself because it did not have the financial pressures of buying a movie projector or paying painters for their exhibits. As time went on the gov- ernment began to initiate a number of Casas de la Cultura in each of the diffe- rent states. We decided to change the name to Teatro de La Candelaria be- cause it began to sound as though it were subsidized by the government, that it was part of the national gov- ernmental cultural plans, which it was not. Originally the group performed and rehearsed in a small house in a different part of the city, but as it became more difficult to pay the rent we managed to get a subsidy from the city council to buy a house in the colonial sector. They were giving low-interest loans and so they gave us one of these houses and helped us pay the down payment. About five years later we finished paying this off. Now the house belongs to the group, which is quite an achievement. The house is in front. At the back, in an empty field, we built the theater. It has been functioning ever since. Q: Have you received subsidies by the government or been able to secure some other kind of financial assistance? PACIFIC TRIBUNE—FEBRUARY 17, 1978—Page 8 A: There are no subsidies on a regu- lar basis, but there are two different kinds of support that can be obtained. The most permanent is aid from diffe- rent senators, members of congress and the city council who are from the left- wing parties. It’s hard to get that kind of aid from a liberal, and even more dif- ficult from a conservative. Obviously the aid is quite small because left-wing representatives have an enormous number of organizations and institu- tions they want to help. There are many theater groups in this kind of situation. The Cultural Institute of the gov- ernment has also given aid to certain groups. The first year La Candelaria was accepted for a grant by the Institute of Culture, the Minister of Education re- fused it. So we didn’t get anything, but some of the other groups did. This year we received one for the first time, but it was very minimal, not even enough to pay the telephone, electricity and water bills. That’s not much help. Q: How many members are in La Candelaria? A: Thirteen now. There has been some fluctuation: Of the original 13 founders there are about four people left. Some, particularly those of the first five years, have gone into TV. Some now direct other groups, or have gone to study abroad, and others are not doing theater anymore. Q: Why did they leave? A: In the first five years when the group performed primarily European, classical and contemporary U.S. plays it was a very different group than it is -now. Thé collective work of the group increased as time went on and along with that a certain consciousness de- veloped. In the first years when it was more of a typical! repertory group, the members had a different orientation than those who came Jater. Q: When did the group begin to per- form plays with Latin American themes? A: As we performed our classical repertoire in union halls, schools, uni- versities, in different cities arcund the | country and different peasant areas in the countryside, we realized we needed plays whose content was more directly related to what our audiences were liv- ing in their daily lives. We did a series of what we called Jornadas Obreras — en- counters between artists and workers — and this helped us to see that these plays were not the best suited for them. A classical or European play was not as well assimilated as a Colombian one could be. The problem is that we don’t have too many playwrights. We only have two or three and their plays have been put on thousands of times. La Candelaria People’s theater — in Colombia | Q: Is this when the group began to create their own plays? A: Yes. Our first collective creation was about the first revolt in Colombia against the Spanish domination, which occurred way before independence. This revolt took place in 1781 before the French Revolution. It was of a rather primary nature, but it was a large mass movement. Over 20,000 peasants went to Bogota to demonstrate against the Spanish government which succeeded in pacifying the demonstrators with false promises: This play, which we call Nosotros Los Comunes (We the Com- moners), has been presented over 500 times all over the country in the past five years. This is an indicator that these plays, which are Colombian not only in their historical theme, but also in their orientation, have a great deal to say. That’s why they go on for years and years. . Before, with the classical works, there would be a certain audience that wanted to see them, and then there wouldn’t be much demand for them, so the play would be taken off and another put on. This allows us as much time as needed to work on anew play. If we take two years we don’t get too worried be- cause we have our repertoire of Colom- bian plays and there is always a de- mand for them. We often have to turn down performances because it takes too much time when we are working on a new play. Q: Would you describe some of your other plays? A: Our second play is about the emigration of the peasants to the city — a phenomenon which has occurred “ties . since the late 1940s during the civil wat when the peasants, their lands taken from them, were driven to the city. This play demonstrates the false illusions of | those who go to the city in search of jobs, — in search of a better life. It has bee performed over 300 times. : Next we did a Brazilian poem. In this play the group added music as an inte gral part. One of the group members composed the music. | Our next production, Guadalupe: Anos Sin Cuenta, was also a group crea tion. The title has a double meaning i Spanish: Guadalupe of the years of the 50’s (cincuenta) or Guadalupe of the years that have been unaccounted for (sin cuenta) as far as the history books are concerned. We don’t find any analysis of this recent civil war, from 1949 to 1953. It’s a war that was never declared and that some try and deny ever existed, yet it claimed the lives of | some 300,000 people, mainly peasants of both the liberal and conservative pat This play met with great success: | Many historians in Colombia considet with this play theater has gotten ahead of historians in investigating history: We had several taped interviews with people who had lived through the period and we also looked into newspaper ar@ hives and a couple of books that wer published clandestinely. This was T@ ally our first attempt to do an historic@! analysis in a dynamic way that doesn't lose the audience’s interest, that doesn't dissipate the entertainment aspect 0 theater. With this we won the Casa dé las Americas prize in 1976 given by thé Casa de las Americas in Cuba. This wa a great reward for us. Photos by Jose Gastambide/ Latin American Popular Theatre Festival