Interview vii th obert ob i naon . h~.t's your full n .n e . Hober ~ xob i.r.e cr..• en "e. ') ",'ou b ..Jl.'n 7 1}17 •. eb, } 1.r}~ .t J, ) ) .1' en tc' n ,1:1 es 7 r~ .b l.e , ·nj my mo--sller's er e your l-:~~Ys i s t er '.» el ton 11,.r11e i· ih t .bcu t t')v'''' ~ I li v i L St"'ve o J. n un if' .1. ;_8. lon IL":.'e .i d 01 ~ y:. 1':' r> } ~11 you "'r~ ;, .11 Ir.. .n 01 . :~ou::;~, nevr ~he b :'::'1 i.n : _ "y rd. i t ....'11 f") "I --. ~ "'Ira you u -t"1'1 ~ ~O .:e 2.0 ~ ., '0.. 0 (~T0. ) .e 1 .j:lood stOY-G.; ( ,r~re -n: you ..Jet y ur ',:00 . ) I buy '(;} e .. 001 from ~,o:"eO:.1G"ls~, m yb s th e '"01n on ' [ ~ro.""l :j. )~0':. I -:; c os t 20 ,o~l:: s ' ~or ."'t ~r8 ·s e cdnd ye.r ~~e e., '00 < ~ ','00: .::; i'l It, ~ 0'. "1 e 9 ,'~i you ->,t y 'r ' '~ r7 i ::! ck vt , t'~r 0, ::;u _leI d., =; , ~ :;':0_" -.;1 e ,~.) C' .me t: r-ougr , ( every d~.y. ) y""r., ch .tw; every j(...y, I D ck '''0 er, ( rr1'.t the 'Il"" t.er for?) l e use it f'or when e cook an d to Vi .s1' the )l.ce. .L n d I uc ed "GOcut. 00 J for 3 do Llvr s a cord s ome t l m s ;~2. 50. ',nd I p ck Vl_'.ter for '~-:o)le dovrn t ow for, 8. 25 yrs. 'lgo. You know Le cn cung , Laun tr y w :i Wong ( I~· ;"h"'t t·.., 0 ,e t1"~t \l s b"'sijo lice .ni tl ond's . tore.) Yvh , I :? ck ,,'"1.ter:. for 5 yr['. .rid I ) .ck '" .t si to 0 .. U~fe, for Lon ; time, 9 yrs. ( who I'o: . ) You ':nov; Lee Jo, I c .11 him :!ii Bun ( n e .ns ..... i.=; belly ) . t'-'r th. t I go b .ck o r-es t .urv.n t . or 7 yrs. J.g .Ln. ( Do you ..{nO"NBC Ji..nmy ) Yeah I cu t \700d ~ or l"'i i , _ doll.r . cord. ( ',{:.:-~s tIp. t ca f e ther "1.11 tr e -t. time )Ye.h (w ». th.t WI ere S:, rom Sunrise C .f9 born ) Y8ah, B ::; Jil1my 7;"G:::' m's f.-:;her. Ye ..11 , I qu t , 1"e only )LY 1 ~oll-r a cor I cut 5 cordu .nd get 5 doll.rs. I s .~:i th~ mo~~y ~s no~ enough for che Vlor:ic • The W2.. ter \l c 10 _2 •• ts _ tri.:? ( Do you remember Cora Sterri tt Grey ,"lor.~ing _ t Le Cheung . ) Ye...1"'~o:np.times .•. I 'ct ~ 2. 50 .f t.er' rh . t .nd I -.[_~ cbe L.s 1; )erson to t. ul vn t e; , fter th '.t, I jus t .va Lk .r-ound. I ..:;;ot I'1Y old '"'6e )ensi:m now , Ijust '.'''-tlk round. The only «ox:s: I do now , is in uh e g.vr-d en, Evr->ry ye.\,r. i ';Ih t xi.nd o f chores di d you )) .round t h e hous e . The s me 8 wor-k , I cu t wood, -.nd get ',:a ter. I don't . ck VI • "Ger nyraore. Ius ed to p.i ck v • ter nd cut wood. allover. I. didn 'It fnloveoinhto Steve's p l, ce, until 2 yrr'. ci1 ed. n ') o VI en my .O"G,er ~ •.ssed .'{{ay. jJO you remember vh e flool in' 3v ? No. not after our motr.er re ,11J. l fter l)i}e w -~ put in, Iwash IE shes , ~-t mourning, •t SU'11)e.L time, I get two doll7£f5'S - tha t8s good enough for me ( vII:. t did you buy ,i th the money ~ ) I ouy f'c .d ~.n-l what ev ez I need. ~ometimes I save 60 Doll" r-s .rnd buy lots of groceri es. Ih .t ki nd 0 games 1: r ev er' _)L y when .• di d you )1 ,y, .:hen you w er-e small . jus t chor-e r , I get w .o d .111 che time. 'Nhere di d you ';0 to s cho oL? I\l en to school town by "Gte 1.:;li c n en ar-ch, L:s. S uoneg . te as ~he te .chcr . rhen I want to Edc.on to-: for 3 yrs. 1935. Then I went to v.or-k, I worked f i r-s t at .. s tab.l s , c.Learri ng out m cnur e for 1 yr. t supp er t.i me I feed them. I never go b .ck to s ccco I . fter th.. t, I come b .ck here .n d wor-iced s i n c> chon, v Di d you pl.,y old Tom? Oh ye h we I)Ll.yed beside tLe old church ( S~lv.-tion r.y). \ e 1'L yed - or - lone: time. erytime I go to b. t, I hi t a ho eroom, h.. ha , no unp i r e. vid you pl~y b seb •.11 ! '0, I"ust watch. They h..d ...ome pr et ty good g meso No drinking everyone dr i nr s now, I .l on t t li t e to "a tch =o«. In 1)50, I cut io Les :'ter t.h t I "'Jrked on "G e rivel.tr.i v e , or 3 y .r-e, Rive1.drive - ch .tto.:> .r en you ek i n .ooi .nd dry iL. You ride the lo~s, no btne~~ng, jJ.st go. Trey t00 nuch ,, trouble, 50 : oui t, 'de uc e d co "t ::.t r t Ki s oi cx , r i gh t .lown to her e, (so yJJ. ride r i gn t dc.rn to H·.:.elton. ) Yeih. ( n t you auit b ecau..e of the d~nger. ) Yeah. I just rant something to e t , the cook is no good ( Lvughs ). Thl-t's why I pvck 11 my b.l vnke ts home. They Cell me b .ck in the mo.rrrri ng , u t T ji ln 't ',I .n t to go b eca.ue e I like to e c ( h.. , the cco x w.i s n t too go od, ). ('{hen lid you go on 1 river drive? ) You know 1'm :;:ettlng too old "GO remember, when you get he wood re dy .n d out it in tre w Lter .ind .hen you ~o. I qui t that, I nevar '::0 back to r-i.ver-dr-i.v e , r.y ior e. ( .ho ',I ere your :)artner;:, wr-en you ri v =r-dr-i v ed.) 11 the oller p e op Le , us t i n IJ.arti 1, Steve, Steve £'loore, Jornny ..oore, t lec Green. i i I 3/ nything ~out ~he Si~Jn Gun noot story . •:y old rn vn tell .ne th t he 'dll man b e twe en T\';o :.:ile rid H ,~el ton. Fe .I l.Led two men, ( bu t i t::--s elf-dp en c», W .cn 't iu. ) Yen.r". SVeryone Lo o.; for r.Lm , ani the ole' m m , h~ e t i Ll, r-ou.id , '1.11 "'CLJ ")01:' c emen who loa .Lng ::or 1-".m 7 L'c ri:; ~ P ,~E ed him, in t own. f "pr tr.l. t he go on 'the tr"'.."Jli '1e. 1 e come and tte t~'i~,l t.r v. y .u .cn ow Conni e Coo1:;:8.nd L--.Yly?rE .nr on ( the: g"y th'l.t o.'n ed tLe ',Jig tore. h2 .;tet off" I hink he served rri e. t.i me while i.:! exile. You get the book, "'\.ndyou see L .wY·r } .nf on. Pe told me to st.y ~w~y, someone g~t ~urierej. J e ~et md t me ;.,0 I ~'tay w .y. 'llhey never f ound rim, before he turn~d -Lm. elf in. I t~y one for hteve, 1 for Bruce, 1 .or C~ ,to Dou~l E ( Ee i;:.. t .Lci n. .cou t .h e boo~'i:; "un, Indian, Run ) Let th;s be an edited vel'sionRobert~s father told him Simon Gunanoot shot a man between Two .ile and Hazelton. He killed 2 men, as a result of selfdefence. The police party looking for him ~ walked right passed him while in town. He went out to his trapline, and stayed there for 13 vears. He was exiled, and finally turned himsel~ in. Lawyer Hanson ( + Connie Cooks ) supported Simon and he got off due to his eeLt'def'ence MY plea. ather told me to st~y away, because of the murder ••• r 1,