‘Marc. Lalonde said today.

He gave the figure in the Commons. in ‘
' +: speech opening debate ona controversial:
bill- that would. give. the. government ..

- authokity to borrow $5 billion ‘during the ©

" fiscal year ending March 91 and $14! billion’ *

_ during the first few months of te eA

fiscal year, ~

The ‘Léglalation . has. “genetated gon:
* troversy because , the “government” has
apparently never asked for: so: much |
- borrowing ° ‘authority” at’ once. Opposition

The: federal ts
fits projected budgetary | danale ie rere :
curtent fiscal year:has yisen.to:a record
$27.2 billion, or $3.¢ billion -Thore “than
estiniated in October,: Finance Minisler

dec government ‘casis) expecially’ for"

, welfare. prograrna, have escalated.

If. ‘any: member of Parliament is” sur-'
“prised by the legislation, Lalonde said,

. then’ ‘he or she-has not been paying at,

‘tention be the real world. outside.” mo

“Opposition MPs: had stalled ‘Lalonde’s
* attempt. to introduce. the borrowing bil ,
; earlier’ this week and hé appealed to them _
in ‘the speech . to help ‘strengthen: the few |
“‘elgns there are in ~ the’ courtry. of’ an
v eepnomic recovery by “petting: on with the.
s, business at hand.” .

“MPa gay Lalonde should not be aking for~ ; He, admitted) he was wrong in forecasting

’ go tach money without first introducing:a‘: ©
budget that spelts out what he needs: it for.” .
Lalonde did ‘not reveal the ‘projeried
deficit or {otal financial. reqairements: for
1983-84 but‘sald the next budget will con
tain the details of spending of an estimated '
$88.0 billion during - the: ‘fiscal year:

beginning April 1.

Se A a sepesct en
~ spending inthe current fiseal year of about.”

$30.5 billion. -

This latest: move ‘boosts Oitawa's’
‘financial requirements. for: the”. 1068-88.
fiscal year to $28.1 billion from $22.2 billion”
estimated by Lalonde’ in ‘October’ in: a
budget-style | ‘statement ‘reviaing' ‘the
calculations . of his predecestot ; Allan

MacEachen..

‘Lalonde ald the monéy is necessary,

Prime Minister ‘Trudeau
_has said the state has ‘no
’ place ih the bedrooms of the.
nation, but’ a: federally

- appointed committee is

‘asking some. very persona)
questlons, {1

At. the request of av
committee investigating -
child abuse, the Canadian -

' Gallup Poll organization
has-been: seeking replies to

some very..- explicit -
questions from’ a raadom

sampling of ~ 2,000

Canadians...

‘The 10-page, hand .
- delivered quiz asks probing: -

"queations on. pornography,
sexual relationships and
“unwanted sex-acts.”

One question asks: “How -

oP RENT

honse : ‘In the Cricklewood district, ‘said a spokesman at

and another asks: ‘How old. .
“were. ‘you when you first
bought: pornography?” ‘
Gallup officials refuse to
discuss. the survey. Siudy
director Clara Hatton said

Wednesday publicity at this
stage: ‘could - _prove .
disasterous. Oe ;

The survey was com-
mitsioned) by.-The. .Com-"
mittee of Sexual Offerices:
against ‘Children and
Youths, cappainted — by -

Ottawa two years ago...

:Committee*~ chairman,
Robin Badgley,'a. Univer-
‘sity ‘of Toronto’ professor, ©
_ denied there is any. pécrecy
abbut the-poll: °
‘The ‘committee in funded |
by the federal departments:
of Justice -and Health and -
Welfare.” ‘Members ftange'-
from doctors, social
workers: ‘atid “Judges,
cluding Madame Justice

7 Patricia Proudfoot. of the

B.C; Supreme ‘Court.
“Tie primary focus is not

on the sexual behavior of

‘information, on them: when

vin Octaber that the recovery would begin
\. in the final ‘quarter of 1982. He had ex.)

’ measure of economic activity, to decline -
by 44per cent in 1982, but it appeared the |
‘decline was close to five. per cent.

"wrong about 1062 and that he would spell

the next: budget, Lalonde quoted former |
.. Chinese Communist revolutionary leader
‘Mao Tse Tung saying “those-who forecast
‘should forecast frequently.”
‘-. Lalande said he still hopes to introduce

- promised in the past but he suggested once .
‘again the budget will be delayed if tax
_/). legislation. based ‘on previous ‘budgets, is
: ne* assed in Parliament first.

a ron

rittee quéetions personal |

VANCOUVER (CP). -

children, but is’ to obtain mittee ‘recommend possible

they are ‘children, when ‘laws.
they * may ~ ‘have “been ~

unemployment insurance. ‘and: social n
i i ‘teachers. *

"pected real gross national product, the key _

‘In noting that many forecasters were -

“out the government's 1983. projections in -
‘I take courses related to the speciality they select.

the next budget before April 1 as he has. -.

‘changes to child Protection

" sexually ‘abused,". Badgley
said in an. interview ftom ,

Toronia, *". -

It is being handled in the

Strictest confidence and —

people ore not being asked

be, used tol the com

_“E have’ ‘personally tio”
- doubt. that there is a: basic
‘need for better factual .in- .
formation than we have.
today.” a
the sociology’ professor’:
said the information would

-filling out the forms,

immediately,'’ he ‘sald.
“There:48 no obligation to
take part: ‘Inthe eurvey. "

~ Skulls found

LONDON. (AP) — ‘Police searching’ for. ‘mass murder’,

toy in the. back, yard: of a norih London. house today,
rted finding pieces of at least five skulls, and said it
peobablysaa the-most significant, te
* The raniairil ware unedrthed W can Edin inat

alter,

esday afternoon at the

Scotland Yard, London's police headquarters.

_ Authorities have sald that'as many as 17 people, most of
them young drifters, may have been killed over, an eight-.

year period.
The police spokesman, who asked not to be ‘identified,
said the skull fragments — some of them crushed together ;
— wer found buried along with bones and other remains in
land behirid the house... :

‘ ; Pathologist David Bowen was to visit the scene 2 to further ;

exaimige | ‘the. mass grave, now covered ‘by a white

“polyethylerie tent.

‘Police have been searching the house and grounds at ‘185

Melrose Ave., Cricklewood — dubbed a “house of horror” .

- by newspapers + : since discovering - hacked-up human

dress, in Muswell Hill, eight days ago.

A resident at the Muswell Hill rooming house, civil sei
.-vatit Dennis Andrew Nilsen, 97, has-been charged with the
-murder of the only victim yet identified — Stephen Neil
Sinclair, a jobless, homeless 20-year-old.

Detective Chief Superintendent’ Geoffrey Chambers, ‘who

is leading the search in Cricklewood, said he expected tobe
able to identify at least.four of the victims found there. He
in. “Said these four were aged between 20 and. 4. But he added
‘that some-may never. be identlfied. .

. Om Tuesday, police found'd dental plate with several |

teeth, along witha large quantity of bones. Teeth and dental

work are-among ‘the most. useful tools in identifying

decayed bodies. ° a

-to identify themselves when -

“I think the way we are - -
4: doing it, they can withdraw’ -

_ early federal election call
-eould..see: Joe . Clark -

-: Trudeau) does pull the
remains from three victims at another north | London ad- :

. @lection, Joe Clark is our“

- “anti-Clark.”

“Save with these S

° ; ‘ ‘

a ideipline is 50 inet Brith
- Coluinbia’. schools toda ; Education | ster. BIL".
"Vandet® Zalni ‘sald Wetnesday, at ‘he Is getting «
complaints of children’ ‘getting away with ‘etriking ,

we

No one: wants to. ‘take, action for fear of what the a ©
parents will:,say, sald Vander Zalm who! qui¢kly
. added that heisnot advocating the return of the strep ‘
though the memory ‘af: ‘beliig strapped: is vivid. *+,
‘+ “T got it ence, good: and hard, back in Grade 8 on a.
‘Thursday afternoon, & aunny afternoon in May at the:
third deak from the-back — it certalnly had‘an effect...
n° me and left'a lasting. impression.” © coe _
. He told the Victoria ‘Chamber of ‘Commeres' he"
would. Ike to ‘somehow encourage the schools, by ~
- whatever means, to make sure that when a youngster Lo
~ defaces or damages school property that for. the next”
“week he picks, up. everything, every little piece-of- °
fs paper of cigarette butt a block everyway from school:
» “There is a great deal that can be.done-to bring -
back a measure of disciple that schools ‘and parents .
have failed to assure ‘is within the system as it ought
-. to be,” he said. . “

- Mander Zaim aleo said that his ministry.is, working. .
ona new curriculum for public schools throughout-the *
province with the goal of getting back to basics.’
_" He. suggested that students have too many options.
which: are totally irrelevant and should be required to

“-y The minister said that if a student chooses a trades —
“course, he should get a. trades math: course while a
_pergon studying. business, could get a business math
“course, “‘but not na: math.” ne

“We owe It to them, to give them a ‘more ‘effective
te curriculum, .a_ more. efféctive school program. that
" will benefit them in:future years."
“Vander Zalm said it also ts “our duty to reintroduce | ;
a means of provincial: ‘testing. ws
He said such tests must be. fair but would ensure :
that Students throughout the’ proyince, : be: they in ‘|
Atlin, Cassiar, Cranbrook, or in Vietoria, have an!
“equal opportunity.
“And, if we find a “district, or school % ar ‘class or
youngster failing: badly tinie after’ ime, Jet's: not
ignore it, let's get, at: it.

‘abilities of our“ young pats and let's look for ex-
_ eellencé and not attempt to pull everything down to
an average for fear it might offend somebody.”

EDMONTON (CP) —

delegates to the recent Tory

° returning to the job of .voted for ‘a. leadership
“Progressive Conservative - Teview, Clark said he would
leader, party president: ‘step; down and:-battle any:
, Peter Elzinga said Wed-! "

“ mesday. * Fae.”
“Elzinga; MP: for he ‘Binds ‘tie race! has star
“Alberta riding of Pembiha, -hels “wlisingy gala” Ald”
seen trough ° ae salty ‘fs important and
on | , e oe efers to take the o
the leadership Saturday; timate. view. °

national ‘executive wo dé
have to buffer the party:
against an election before -
the leadership’ convention.

ng Would be dependent on
what we do at’ the national
executive on Saturday, but
we have to include some
“provisions in. addressing
- Joe's resignation so that we
will not be left leaderless if.
he {Prime Minister

plug,” Elzinga said in an
interview.. boas,

- “My feeling is that in the
event he does call an

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Jeader. 7 ; .
. Elzinga’ said he is not

““Bélieve it or not, I voted oo,
againat the review,’ san

| Medical.

When one-third of- the -

sgontenders in ‘a jeadersbip -

Reg. $775.00

- “Py — A
\ University. cof! ‘Manjtoba of

medical professor has' come
out

‘profestor: of.

“He |) ‘suggests: - that

-spéclalists, deserve’ pethaps ay
"$4,500 “a: year- more. than -
+ family: “doctors working. the .
. same | number. of poura®:
bh ‘Writing: in the Canadian
Association.
Journal, Rose says the days.
~ when most specialists could
~ gJaim. special ' ‘status. in the

profession : =~ and ‘sub-

stantially higher fees - “Bre |

gone.

‘The idea’ that’ apectaliats’
' pre “better'’. than general
; practitioners” is. simply no .
- Jonger true;‘he says.’
Specialists, now out-—

number family doctors, and
many do_a;lot of work that.
could be- donie| ag well or

“belter, by ‘family. doctors.

© “Doctors-no: longer enter

“ specialties . ‘just to better:

develop and = use . their

. talents, although thia'ia still
‘gn important part of the .
“motivation,” Rose writes.

“Now they ‘often choose

"the: specialty that provides
: aximum.’ earnings while

requiring fewer hours of

‘work and rare’ emergen-
- eles.”
Some specialists, such. as

those in internal medicine

or psychiatry, often earn.

about the ‘same as family.

" doctors. “Ottiers, such as -
-, cardiac surgeons, often |
.- earn twice what the average:

-- doctor earns or more. ,

up’. the bill for specialty

. -training, ‘and the only: :
jconvention in Winnipeg. :

sacrifice’. - made by,
‘specialists. ia a loss. of
earning power’ ‘during their

extra-two or ' three years as

“residents. ~ :
To make. up tor this, he

says. peciallste should a

Ral,

yéar more ca

other crt ratte re througho
“their” pani — etree
through higher consulting

fees in medicare fee fee

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as an anti-Clark candidate
— why, I- don’t know
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‘with: a’ - proposal _
: guaranteed to atrike fearin .
. the “hearts of . specialists:
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Dr. . Lewis "Craig: ‘Rose,
assistant.
; family : medicine; says “it's: .
‘difficult, “to justify paying
‘ specialists: much more than’
general: practitioners aa

from ; Winnipeg, -.
agreed: that ~ highly © paid -

"fight ‘efforts: ‘to-trim’ their.
° Who wouldn’t ‘Nght? “There..

+ £8? mo: Way in - practical -.
polities that tyou could) ‘cut

’ gross income ‘of: $62,278 In.

"aren't broken down to show
_ the average incomes. of.

pay ‘could ‘also. be:. “Rove also says.a doctor has
offered: to altract doctors ‘he right to 8 normal ‘life
into ‘gertain | " specialties
where there are shortages -

or to provide “rewards” for:

should be: able ta eam &
decent. living - without

-: specialists who develop new” sworking more than * hours:
- treatments or ‘procedures:

a week.

On the questo’ af foes in:
‘general, Rosé ‘aske . why'a
doctor. in. ‘Newfoundland + .
should | have to see "30, per
ent more: patients: to: earn:

Ina ‘telephone interview
‘Rose .

ts: would: certalnly’

in Beli Columbia: *
‘The Joarnal article is. one

‘those dealing with: special:
disputes on doctors’ fee — -
that has tried to asseas how ~
‘doctors ‘should.be paid.”

Hose says doctors should.”
average about $60,000 a

them back.’

“The latest. “available.
federal siatistica show self- °
‘employed doctors .and |
surgeons had an average

‘hayé. normal 40-hour work
weeks and get four weeks a
year. in. holidays and
another:two weeks for bost:.
graduate study,

1980. However, the: figures‘

family
specials.

Queen greeted -

GRAND CAYMAN (AP) — An estjinated’10,000 people,
‘mere than half the Cayman Islands’ population, waved.
Union Jacks and ¢ as 5 een, Elizabeth became the
first reigning re patriotic British colony.

“You can ore off ‘agd find a flag or a “gn
said.John Ward, a British in

doctors = or

welcoming the- Queen,“

” formation officer With tie Caynian News Bureau. ‘‘No way .

do these people want to be independent.” -

_ During last year’s Falklaniis lalands war, residents of
these Caribbent Hdlaiés Betvréey Jamaica and Cuba -con-
tributed $1 milll§A'th Britdln for the campaign to drive

. Argentine invasion forces from the Falklands.

The Queen was to operi the Caymans’ Parliament: latér

. ‘today before leaving for Mexico. She’ arrived here Wed-

nesday after a four-day trip to Jamaica.
The Queen rode a launch across choppy bay waters and
" offictally opened a new road that crosses this island, largest
of the three inhabited Caymans.
‘Some 17,000 people live on the islands, ‘and officials ‘said
‘thousands of tourists also were here for the Quoen’s visit.
The Queen and tier husband, Prince ‘Philip, are on a

2 I f th Hemisphere that will take ,
Rose says taxpayers pick « month-long tour of the Western Hemisph

them to’ the United States and to British Columbla.’

~ ‘Today, the Queen sert'a telegram to Avatralia’s governor

‘general; Sir Ninian Stephen, saying she was “shocked and
distressed” “by the bush fires in ‘Australia which - have

: ¢lalmed’ more than 60 lives, A copy: of the’ telegram’ v was

‘released in- ‘London by Buckingham Palace. .

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