* + Getting out of Last of a series BY JULIETTE PROOM HERALD STAFF WRITER giving yous sinking feeling ving youa 5! eeling every time the end of the | month rolls around? Do you wonder if you will ever have savings in the bank instead of a barrage of NSF. cheques? Do you want help gett ng out of financial ouble? There’s a Debt Counsellor in Terrace to help people out of their personal finacial woes. Bill Godden deals with personal debts only—he cannot assists with business debts can hechange existing mortgages or debts to the government. . Private debts include bank loans, credit cards purchases, finance com- pany loans and bills. Loans guaranteed by the govern- ment but borrowed trom a BCR’s VANCOUVER (CP) — Spokesme ; for British Columbia Railway disclosed Tuesday for the first time that they are negotiating with the ovincial government to- termine the future of the Crown railway's operations from North Vancouver to Prince George. Ron Holton, BCR research supervisor, told the McKenzie commission studying. affairs. of the railway that the question of continulng passen er services as 4 public service was. being ussed with the government. ‘Holton said ‘absalute minimum” losses on assenger services have crepsed to $635,000 in 1976 from $430,000 in 1974, The first six-month period this year has realized a loss of more than $383,000, Recent fare increases of more than 30 per cent to six cents a passenger mile from 4.4 centa mean the railway is still a long way off from meeting the 1978 projected break-even cost of 9.4 cents. “The board of directors has resolved that if the provincial governmen! directs that the passenger service must be continued, the provincial ‘government should assume direct re- sponsibility for it, and the railway would operate the service on a contractual . basis, ina manner similar to the current practice by the U.S, and Canadian govern- ments,” said Holton. CHANGES LITTLE The switch from BCR to B.C. government respon- sibility would mean little change for taxpayers—they would still have to cover service losses. The railway gave five reasons why Victoria should take over responsibility: —projected losses; ~—significant ‘capital needed to buy new equip- ment; | ; ~—potential traffic growth lies in tourism and therefore, promotion should be through co-ordinated¢ government programs; Amtrak and Via are examples of the desire by other governments. to continue passenger operations; —need for co-ordinated approaches to passenge! systems by all leveis of government. REPORT STUDIED Holton said an $8,500 report by five commerce students at the University of B,C. showed a high leyel of community interest 5 in BCR's passenger service, although he agreed that while on-line residents have ’ testified they like the ser- vice, very few use it—44 per cent of passengers are tourists. Cost increase forecasts and a desire to avoid service culs, led BCR to decide to continue current services. The inquiry continues. ~ bank ‘contracts, - creditors and monthly gas fall under his jurisdication. ; When a person comes into his office, Godden makes him promise to return for counselling after the im- mediate problem is solved. The whole family is taught how to make up a budget and live within limitations. Before tackling the actual problem, Godden assesses e situation. He requests proof of all debts--loan bills from and utility statements. He also likes to see monthly pay stubs. This gives him a true picture of the client’s financial situation. ; Together, the client and Godden draw up a realistic estimate of household: ex- penditures. Everything goes on to this estimate, including cigarettes laundry and entertaiment. Once the size of the debt and the client’s ability to pay is determined, Godden Starts his leg work.Often he'll visit creditors to confirm debts and see if they will settle for a slightly lower inferist rate. : ost prinepe inlsing, at Leaat tt me money is better than no money. If the total debt is under $2000 Godden will put the , _ Even when help is free client into his pool account. The client tums over his income to Godden who in turn, pays the debt and manages the money. “Most People on this system don’t owe too much,"’ said Godden, “Usually the people just can’t manage the money on their own.” © For more serious cases, Godden suggests Orderly Payment of Debts (OPD) as Bankrupcy Act. With OPD,the client does not decalre bankrupcy. His money. is managed throughout the government, and his debt are paid off in three years. “To put a client of OPD, I file the information obtained in the assessment stage with a Supreme Court Judge in Prince George. bers, the judge will decide how much money the client ‘described by part 10 of the is capable of paying every In cham: ’ PRITINCIAL LIBRARY YASLIAMEN VICTORIA money and assigns a siable rotion of that to debis. At @ judges discretion, the interest rates be reduced. "the interest of OPD is to pay off debts as soon as Peuaily, the fie period ‘Usually, iod i three years but fit ‘special circumstances the judge ‘will expand it to five years. said Godden. Some people need to declare bankrupcy. Thier debts are 50 big that there is no realiste way of paying. Once the decision has been the “herald Serving Terrace, Kitimat, the HazeHons, Stewart and the Nass , VOLUME 71 NO. 122, Price: 20 cents BATmobile arri yes One of B.C.’s first four Batmobiles (breath anz., is testing mobile units) go on duty this week from its: base in Terrace, covering communities from Houston to Prince Rupert. Sgt. Bud Cummings, stands beside the new vehicle, above, and, with Cst. Errol Schell, (inset) shows how the system works. Drivers caught in road blocks suspec lof being impaired blow into i the breathalyzer machine which indicates the con- centration of alcohol in the blood, ~~ Cummi anywhere 8 says. road blocks will be staged the coverage area and the van wil) be operated about three hours a day, He says he hopes the BATmobile doesn’t result in an increase in im- 5 z a ma 3 E 2. Z F 3 J 3 3 e = a and Last yearmore than 306 people were killed in drinking impaired driving conviction carries a maximum - penalty of $2,000 plus six months in jail. WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 26, 1977 J et Cancel agrees on clean-up Federal and Provincial Environmental authorities and Canadian Cellulose have reached agreement on lan to seal and contain olychlorinated Biphenyl (PCB) found in a small area of Porpoise Harbour near Prince Rupert, says a Cancel news release. The first phase of the sediment containment plan is to place a layer of surplus wood fibre know as Leached Hog Fuel in a area ex- tending just over 200 feet from a drainage outfall in the company’s Log Pond area. The land fill will vary in depth but will be about 35 feet thich at the deepest part. Cost is expected to be In excess af $200.000. The cover is designed to prevent any possibility of chemical from migrated Test cancer cure TORONTO (CP) — A spokesman for a drug company said Tuesday the company will test a formula which an 99-year-old woman from Bracebridge, Ont., says is useful in the control or cure of cancer, . David Fingard of Respirin Corp. Ltd., Toronto, said the company will spend six months testing the formula, developed by Rene Caisse in the 1920s from an Indian herbal remedy. | Finguard said his com- pany will decide following completion of the tests whether to seek permission to market the formula, called Essiac-Caisse spelled backwards. Miss Caisse said a long- time friend, Dr. Charles Brusch of Cambridge, Mass., who is acting as a witness to the agreement ‘with Respirin Corp., is one of several doctors who ad- Minister Essiac under her guidance. A bill to make use of the formula legal in Ontario was defeated by three votes in the legislature in the 1930s. | from the Log Pond to an area where it might enter the food chain. 4 Weather Donald P, Best, Senior Vice President, Operations for Canadian Cellulose, said homeowners. réadings to municipalities, costs remain the same, New assessments © to change taxes A more equitable way of collecting taxes was discuasedat Terrace council last night which could “result in tax reductions for 65 per cent of Terrace An assessment amendment by-law was given three and needs only to be adopted before the agsessment changes take effect. Ald, Helmut Giesbrecht, chairman of the finance committee which drafted recommendations for the new assessment by-law, explained to council that the changes were in keeping wi provincial options given The actual outcome of the by-law is not known at this time, Giesbrecht stated, and it cannot be predicted that the changes will affect next year's taxes. However, the changes will find 65 per cent of homeowners getting a tax reduction while the remaining 35 per cent will have taxes increased. Giesbrecht added that reductions would come only if In commercial assessments, there will also be changes with 47 per cent of commercial property ° nga decrease and 53 per cent an increase, Skies will be overcast all day with occasional showers. Today's high, 7 degrees, the low tonight, 4 degrees, ; y, T BLDIS BC made to do this, Godden advises his clients of twe routes to take, If the client doesn't have more than $2000 worth of assests and hasnt’ eamed more than $600 in the previos 12 months, he is referred to the federal trustee in bankrupcty ih Vancouver. Here proceedings are handled for a flat fee of $50. However, everyone else wishing tol decalre nkrupcy must go alawyer. The fee varies but it usually starts at $760. In declaring banrupcy, debts have to be varified. A public hearing is held where all creditors have the right to dispute the debts and the value of assesst the client owns. A few months later, a second hearing is held, discharging the petittioner from bankrupey. In effect, work in the project will start immediately with the first phase expected to be completed by year end. After a one year stabilization period, more fill will be applied then capped witha layer of rock.’ Best said the land filt will start from the perimeter of the cover area and work toward the shoreline. A pplication of fill material ll be controlled so as to disturb the sediment as litle as possible. Special in- struments will be used to measure the stability of the sediment at all times, he noted. Several ‘‘Clean-up’’ alternatives were con- sidered, Best noted, in- cluding the feasibity of removing the affected material. Dredging was rejected because disturbing the bark and wood residue at the bettom of the Log Pond cou'd cause the con- tamination to spread beyong., the current 200 foot seni’ cireu'ar area, he said. © the debts are wiped out. If debt is harder than getting in the debts were covered by collateral, the creditor has the right to collect the collateral. Bankrupcy also means the petitioner may not recieve credit for seven years. When a person pays on OPD, or takes proceding toward bankrupcy, Godden takes drastic action with their affairs. He asks for all credit cards and cuts the in two in front of the client. “Credit cardsa present a great temptation to people,” said Godden. “It’s so easy to spend money not thinking at it must be paid back. Godden services are of- fered free of charge. He is paid by the provincial epartment of consumer services. The money is administered by the Terrace Community Ser- vices Society. Godden can be reached at 638-1256. His office is beside the Terrace Answering Bureau at 4503-D Park Ave. ° Kitimat still favored site VANCOUVER (CP) — The West Coast oil ports inquiry was told Tuesday that Ashland Oil, a member af the consortium seeking to. build a port at Kitimat, B.C., stil considers that project the best means of getting oil to midwest refineries, even though other means are being explored. William Perrine, Ashland’s vice-president for goverament affairs, said the. cutback in Canadian crude exports means Ashland won't be able to feed its Buffalo, N.Y. refinery this winter, and its Finley, Ohio plant by next summer, wently, Ashland is considering a number of these are “economic _ possibilities,” none would solve the oil transportation problems as fully as Kitimat, said Per- rine. Louise Mandell, counsel for the Union of British Columbia Indian Chiefs, pressed Perrine for most of the day to admit that the United States could solve its oil shortage problems by proposals other than by a a j port at Kitimat an pipeline to Edmonton. ‘HOSTILE’ AREA Perrine drew some wry smiles when he said Ashland had participated in a study of a pipeline ‘through hostile environment” from Fairbanks, Alaska to Ed- monton—i.e. the Yukon and northeastern B.C. After studying a iot of al- ternatives, Perrine said Ashland is “still in Kitimat” because “‘we still think that eventually we'll need it.” Perrine agreed to provide figures to compare the cost of Kitimat with other ways to move oil to the midwest through U.S. gulf ports. land gets much of its crude from the Persian Gulf, It arrives in the Caribbean on super tankers, and is pumped into smaller ships which then sail to St. James, Miss. on the gulf where the cargo enters Ash- land’s pipeline to southern Minos, That satisfies Ashiand’s Kentucky refineries, bul places like ‘Buffalo, Canton, Ohio, .and St. Paul, Minn. cannot be so served now except by Canadian crude. Hence Ashland’s support for Kitimat, since Edmonton is the point from which all these places can be reached by existing pipelines. URGE SWAP During a break in the pro- ceedings, Perrine said some American oil companies have urged Ottawa, so far without success, te ship Alberta oil to the northern midwest in return for In- creased shipments of off- shore oil through the Por- tland, Maine-Montreal pipeline which can handle 240,000 barrels a day more than is being shipped ’ through it now. He said using Alberta oil to heat and power Quebec may be a_ unification Bes , but it precludes a logical way to resolve an immediate supply problem in such places as Montana, the Dakotas and Minnesota. Budget crunch hits _home VICTORIA (CP) — The British Columbia. goyern- ment has “cuy''into gn unexpected budg/:t problem, because federal gavernment - revenues will by $3 billion less this year thga/jorecast, Finance Minitg#* Evan Wolfe said today. “The provinces will be left with about $688 million less than they expected to receive, and B.C.’s share of this shortfall will be about $122 million,” the minister told the annual meeting of the industrial relations section of the Canadian Pulp and Paper Association. “This means the B.C. government will have to restrict its planned ex- enditures during the alance of this year, although we are, at the moment, running a surplus which will help soften this impact.” olfe said the provincial government will attempt to restrict spending next year to 12 per cent of the gross provincial product com- pared to 17.6 per cent in 1975, 16.3 per cent in 1976 and 15 per cent this year. He said the cut-back is necessary to prevent ‘too large a drain on the private sector.” The minister said the statement by federal | ste Finance Minister Jean Chretien last week demonstrated to the Canadian people “that we have reached a crisis in our national life.” SPENDING EXCESSIVE “For the first time in two decades or more, we have been jolted to the certain realization that we have been living beyond our means,” Wolfe said. “We have been spending without thought of tomorrow. We have been building a gigantic govern- ment that consumes an awesome chunk of our roductive effort and is still manding more. “In the process, we have stripped the productive sector of the economy of much of its muscle and- perhaps more seriouslyof its will, or determination to expand and grow. He added that where the deficit is financed by prigting money, inflation willbe further fueled. ,