Letters Debate soured b For many Tribune readers, the flurry of letters and articles focussed on our most Tecent May Works, and other matters cultu- Tal, must seem slightly confusing at best. At Worst, it would that the principled exchange ' of debate has been supplanted by personal attacks, lam referring particularly to the letter of Julius Fisher in the May 15 issue. Whether One agrees or disagrees with the concerns Talsed by either Pat or Steve Gidora is one thing. To let things get out of hand and attack in a personal way is quite another. After all, who would have known that they were rejected as participants in this year’s MayWorks had it not been menti- Oned in Fisher’s letter? It must be pretty hard to wear that rejection privately, let alone publicly, particularly after all those years of singing on picket lines and perform- Ing at countless progressive functions — not because they ever claimed to be the best performers in town but because, in many cases, they were the only performers who would or could appear. ; Has labour culture taken sucha quantum leap that they are no longer of any use? Should we now denigrate them publicly? To extrapolate from Pat Gidora’s con- cerns about building a labour-positive cul- ture to accusing him of being not Marxist and an idealist who doesn’t believe it possi- ble to build unions or the peace movement 1s like setting up a straw man and knocking him down and, I might add, in not a very nice way. Certainly his thoughts deserve more than a slap in the face. I Personally am optimistic about the future of May Works, and hope to partici- pate at one level or another in its develop- ment in the years to come. It is to be hoped that it will be programmed in such a way that all who will may find a place to perform during that very special week. I personally attack to sing on picket lines. hear music every time someone sincerely tries to make music, and am frequently more moved by a flawed amateur than a well-honed, flawless professional. I guess beauty still is in the eye of the beholder. One thing for certain, though, if we want y personal Steve Gidora (I) with Jim Carlin and Barry Laffin at union rally . . . often the only ones to build any kind of alternate culture, there is going to have to be room for lots of different styles and opinions. Writing nasty letters to one another is not the way. Tom Hawken, Burnaby Can you ‘build’ working-class culture? I am writing to thank Julius Fisher (“MayWorks contest was an effort to develop labour material, Fisher responds,” Tribune May 15, 1989) for the opportunity to get a few things off my chest as well as to expand on an idea from my letter in the May 8 issue with which Fisher took issue. For the past number of weeks, I have taken leave from my regular job as a trade show and exhibit installation carpenter to work as a forester. My reasons for this are many and varied. One is that lama bit ofa flake and do not like to do any one thing for too long, but other reasons include a love for the outdoors, a need to understand and see firsthand the destruction of our envir- onment and the need to find the time to play a little music and learn a song or two. Prim- arily, the reason is my desire to meet new people and to try to learn from the richness of their experiences. ; I feel fortunate to report success on all counts. Since starting, I have been a tree- planter and a quality checker and now I do ‘test plots and regeneration surveys. The current task has me travelling all over the province and has been a real eye opener. It is amazing the amount of work going on in our forests — some of it shoddy, most of it - unorganized and all of it “‘low bid.” The work, however, is being performed by working people — underpaid, transient, immigrant (legal or otherwise), Native, old and young, male and female. Through the course of my contacts with these working people, I have exchanged some ideas, traded a few lies and passed the guitar and mandolin around the few camp- fires. Through this I have learned. I have learned about other places in Brit- ish Columbia, other places in Canada and other places in the world. I have learned about working people in these other places and I have learned the difficulties and sad- ness of their lives. I have learned the joy that we feel when we express that sadness through song. I have learned songs of work from India and Venezuela. I have learned new songs about work that we made up as we worked. I met a young song writer who knew nearly as many labour standards as I could think of and was as quick as could be to make up new words for the old songs. I have felt the commonality of these peo-, ple; I have seen the thread that is woven between us, that same thread that I have -seen woven between my union sisters and brothers at my regular job back home — the thread of working class culture. Iam no idealist. I have helped to build a steward system in my local union. I have participated in union organizing drives. I was an active participant in the building of a mass peace movement in Vancouver and as recently as two weeks ago, helped a young songwriter to develop his musical and per- forming skills. I know these things can be done. Ialso know the beauty and complexity of working peoples’ culture. I have felt its power sweep me up and overwhelm me with my own insignificance. And Fisher would try to build this. He may as well try to build the Rocky Moun- tains or the Pacific Ocean; they’re already there. But Fisher hopes Iam wrong, and not without reason because as long as he believes Iam wrong and can convince oth- ers, including Tribune readers, then there is hope for him and Gary Cristall and others of that ilk that they can continue their bureaucratic, mechanistic existence build- ing empires under the guise of culture. Then there is still hope that they will have to come out of their shelters and meet some working people and try to understand working class culture and perhaps participate in it instead of trying to orchestrate it. Readers should not allow my real and serious differences with Fisher’s, Cristall’s and Teresa Marshall’s approach to the question of culture to be reduced to a case of sour grapes. Indeed, an old winemaker like me has no time for sour grapes born of Fisher’s or anyone else’s efforts. I have left them to wither on the vine and I’m busy tending next year’s crop. Pat Gidora, Surrey Green Hastings park demanded The other evening, I attended a public hearing on the future of Hast- ings Park, currently in the hands of the Pacific National Exhibition. The meeting was intended to allow area residents and interested parties to voice their concerns and make sugges- tions that would serve the needs of our community. Vancouver city council had its task force, which is headed by George Puil, and in his usual pompous and arro- gant manner, he demonstrated his prejudice towards east side residents. There are dedicated residents who have spent numerous hours in dealing with the needs of the community (on traffic and future planning) but as soon as these people spoke, he res- tricted their speaking time and reacted very negatively to their concerns. The whole task force is a farce. Its _ concern is not for the community; it is just a formality. The meeting was a sure indication since it showed that if the race track is eliminated, then there will be no park for the residents because their main concern is to have funds generated to pay for the park. We are the only area in the city which is always discriminated against and always has to fight for what is rightfully ours. I want a green park, nota glorified, revenue-generating amusement park! Employees at Ul also on the line During April you ran a number of articles on changes to the Unem- ployment Insurance Act. Unfortu- nately you said not a word about the government employees who will have to implement these changes. These workers will suffer along with other Canadians under the changes to UI and the announced budget. They have been without a col- lective agreement since December 1987 (although they are now voting on a substandard offer). Canada Employment and Immi- gration workers are among the most militant in their union. This may ~ one reason why they have b fn ordered not to speak to anyone about the changes to UI. When we deal with the UI system sometimes the workers get lumped in with the system. Unless we also men- tion their problems we perpetuate this problem. On a related topic, while applaud- ing the closing of 11 military bases, we must recognize the economic loss to these communities. The government should embark on creating meaning- ful jobs for all the laid-off workers. Perhaps building co-op housing or a factory to build buses or new railway cars for VIA? Jose Kaufman, Toronto Pacific Tribune, June 5, 1989 e §