TERRACE — The Terrace and District Chamber of Commerce is not saying ‘yes’ and it isn’t saying ‘no’ to the proposed con- stitutional changes, says past president Sharon Taylor. “There was discussion and the decision of the board was to ab- stain, to maintain a neutral posi- tion,’ said Taylor, “Board members were nat entirely sold on it (the proposed changes) and it was not in a posi- tion to poll ihe entire membership or (o speak for them,’’ she said, Comments from those opposing the changes related to the idea of locking in representation for Quebec no matter what popula- tion shifts there may be. “The question was bow can you get representation by popula- tion if everyone gets a veto,’ said Taylor. “On the pro side it was ‘ycs’, this is our country and Icts get on with business,’’ she added. Taylor said the decision was difficult because the Canadian Chamber of Commerce at its con- vention last week in Victoria voted in favour of supporting the constitutional changes, as has the B.C. Chamber of Commerce.” “Down at the Canadian cham- ber (convention) it was predomi- nantly yes, except for a lut of northern chambers. some no votes and abstentions as well. We're not totally sold on There were - wd afr earn Chamber to remain neutral * Want to find out more about the proposed constitutional changes? Two meetings are planned. For that story, see Page A3, * Federal justice minister Kim. Campbell, ‘on Page: Al, and Soered Aeader Jack Weisgerber, Page A7, have their say. °° .* TE you were missed in the referendum enumeration ending today, don’t worry. See Page ALO. |. “Pe it,” she said. Taylor said native self govern- ment was discussed but not ad- dressed specifically in chamber executive discussions leading to ’ the abstention decision. kk kkk Although the chamber is ab- slaining, it is hosting a dinner meeting Oct. 20 featuring speakers ‘from the ‘ yes’ and ‘no’ sides, The chamber office also has " pamphlets ‘available from the na- tional chamber and the provincial chamber, kk kkk Meanwhile, Skeena MP Jim Fulton says the ‘no’ vote in the ‘parly organization here, “most of the people he’s talked arca is “‘definitely higher” than the ‘yes’ side. *“Tve been five weeks on the road with this and I have praba- bly the biggest data base,’’ he said Jast week. Fulton added ‘that the ‘yes’ numbers are starting to grow. tk kk About the conly’ visible ‘no’ campaign in the arca is being organized by the Skeena Reform partly organization. Lorne Sexton, president of the says with are voting ‘no’. And the same is being heard from - other members of the Reform executive here. Sexton said the party hasn’t been getting a lot of calls from’ people belonging to other parties who will vote ‘no’. He attributes that to the Reform patty just gelling started with its campaign. hkkkk A Prince Rupert Daily News pell published Oct. 1 found that 50 per cent of the people ques- tioned who will vote were un- decided on how they will vote. Another 24 per cent said they - will vote ‘yes’ with the remaining 26 per cent saying they will vote ‘no’, “The newspaper contacted 170 people and 89 per cent they will vote Oct. 26. ERRACE STIANDAR TERRACE —- Lakelse resi- dents have renewed demands for excavation of portions of ‘the ‘Lakelse River in an effort to reduce flooding in the area. The issue popped up again ‘after last week’s heavy rains flooded Jakeside residences. Lakelse Community Associ- ation president Sandy Sandhals said it has sent a letter to the federal Fisheries department (DFO) calling for dredging of the river near the mouth of Herman Creek. He said the association want a gravel bar removed that forms the creek’s delta, just downstream of the lake out- flow. A similar letter has also been sent to DFO by the lake’s other group, the Westside Residents Association. Both associations contend the delta acts as a dam which, in high water conditions, slows the flow from the lake, leading - 9 higher water levels than _ LAKELSE LAKE homeowner Sandy Sandhals was one of many hit in last week's floods. With much of his property Lakies revive demands to excavate gravel bar necessary. Sandhals said the problems could be further cased if the outflow itself was also widened and deepened. He conceded even that work would not eliminate Dooding of lakeside homes entirely, But allowing more water to flooded to a depth of several feet, a boat became the only way to get from his home to the road and stay dry. tive Mood of 1978 by only 25 centimetres. : That flood had left many homes undcr more than two metres of water. Wilf Dreher, regional water management branch head with the ministry, said last week, “‘I think that study is a fairly good escape more quickly would could make the difference be- tween just high waler levels and flooded homes. But a January 1988 environ- ment ministry report disagrees. It concluded that while the delta controlled the outflow, the removal of 30,000 cu.m. of gravel from the river would only have reduced high water levels during the last destruc- study.”’ While Lakelse residents were obviously determined to get the work carricd out, he pointed out ‘‘Nobody has done a cost benefit analysis.”” Noting flooding on some scale seemed fo be an annual event now, he suggested the cost of dredging had to be set against the cost of paying owners to fload-proof heir hoincs or buying out ihe worst affected properties. There was also the question of how much the province was paying out now, “There is public moncy get- ting spent every year to com- pensate flood damage for the same property,’” Dreher said. “This is now happening’ vir- tually every year. It is’ really just a grotesque situation.” While the residents are bec- oming increasingly concerned, he said the DFO and the provincial fisheries branch “strenuously objected’? to any dredging of the river. Based on the information available, Dreher made it clear it was ‘highly unlikely’’ his department would issue permits for gravel removal in the Lakelsc. Dreher. was at a Lakelse Community Association mect- ing on the weekend. For more on last week's floods, please see page AS. Fast Times « Klassen year's points, cruises to winner's circle on Pub session on land claims | TERRACE —— Local residents can Jook forward to more in- formation on the Nisga’a land claim negotiations in the months aliead. Starting that process off is an informational open house in two weeks at which questions will be answered, says the federal government’s chief negotiator. Gay Reardon said the format for the open house has yet to be decided but that she and the nego- tiators for the provincial govern- ment and the Nisga’a Tribal Council will be preset. “'There’s been a lack of very basic information into the n¢goti- ations and this is what we’re trying 10 do,’’-she said, The open house. will coincide ” with a negotiations session set for Terrace the third week of Octo-: - ber. ‘We're hoping it’s the kind of thing people would like 10 seem from us,”’ said Reardon. “They will be our best gauge of what people think. Pamphiets and radio commercials are finc, but there’s nothing like two-way communication,’’ she continued. The open house and other in- itiatives are in part responding to criticisms that ‘the negotiations are taking place without giving information either to companies and groups affected by a final settlement or to members of the public. At stake is the Nisga’a claim to 11,000 square miles of iand and accompanying resources centered on the Nass Vailey. A final settlement will also pro- vide for Nisga’a scif government and contro} of social services, ed- ucation and other items. ° Federal and other officials met cartier this year in Terrace with. affected companies and groups.» The three partics this’ spring. released a pamphlet on the claims talks and have placed four ads on private radio stations in the north- west. Those ads talk about the issue of natives paying taxes, native rc- sponsibility for cducation and other services, that the claims talks are underway and that a settlement is regarded as good news, The ads were prepared as long : aS a ycar ago and are not intended to’ give precise details on the claims... bt be an) arg(th rungs ch “Ce “want 10 let “peaale know the negotialions are going on and to dispel ‘some of the myths and misunderstandings about land claims generally,” said provincial aboriginal affairs = ministry spokesman Judy Birch. The ads were played to groups of northwest residents before airing io gain their reaction, she said: This method of using focus groups is a common technique of advertising agencies and market- ing companies to determine if ads are effective and give the in- tended message. Although Birch could not re- member precise details, she did say the endings of the ads were changed after people in the groups said they were ‘“‘too glitzy.”” The male voice in the ads is that of Nelson Leeson. He’s the public relations spokesman for the Nisga’a Tribal Council. There’s no time TERRACE — Elections Canada won't be separating out those na- tives who live off reserves in the upcoming. constitutional referendum. It says it docsn’t have time to set up a process. Separate counts had been wanted by native leaders to determine if nalives supported the proposed changes. “Our cxisting polling division arrangement makes it relatively simple for us to provide results from the reserves and remote aboriginal communites,’’ said chief clectaral, officer Jean-Pierre Kingsley. “But for aboriginal peaple who now live in urban centres and elsewhere ... there is simply not eo wee Fa S “SPORTS xe enough. time to identify where they are living, to develop 4 sepa- rate mechanism for counting the votes and to train all of our people to administer it properly,” he said. The president of a non-status native organization estimated that 23 per cent of natives in Canada live on reserves. ‘We are disappointed that the voices of all aboriginal peoples of Canada. will not be counted sepa- rately this time around,” said Ron George of the Native Coun- cil of Canada, ‘‘this means we will be the only partners in the process whose full views won't be known,” That council, and the ¢ Assembly of First Nations, support the pro- posed constitutional changes. POVERTY # Hungry children line up for a hot meal at Terrace’s soup kitchen. NEWS ¢ AQ